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fraser22
Which do people prefer and does playing live vs online effect your ranking /play and vice versa ..
ArchieBunker420

I admit I have never tried online. I've always thought that live games would be better for improvement for a few reasons. Otb games are played start to finish. There is no vacation time, there is no analysis board or other help tools like databases to guide you. It just doesn't feel like chess to me if you have hours or days between moves, tools to assist you, and the ability to pause the game for long periods whenever you need a break. Online chess probably does have it's uses for training though and I have been thinking about trying it. I'm still undecided though. I don't want to deal with the idiots that go on vacation when they're totally lost and drag the game out for weeks on end.

fraser22

fraser22 wrote:

Which do people prefer and does playing live vs online effect your ranking /play and vice versa ..

"live" being in person.

fraser22

ArchieBunker420 wrote:

I admit I have never tried online. I've always thought that live games would be better for improvement for a few reasons. Otb games are played start to finish. There is no vacation time, there is no analysis board or other help tools like databases to guide you. It just doesn't feel like chess to me if you have hours or days between moves, tools to assist you, and the ability to pause the game for long periods whenever you need a break. Online chess probably does have it's uses for training though and I have been thinking about trying it. I'm still undecided though. I don't want to deal with the idiots that go on vacation when they're totally lost and drag the game out for weeks on end.

not sure i would care if my opponent cheated.. just means id be playing a higher rated player... i would never use an engine though.

ArchieBunker420

I never said anything about cheating. The term "online" is usually used to describe correspondence chess which allows those tools and "live" usually refers to live games played online. I didn't know by live you ment over the board so my post is irrelevant.

eaguiraud

ArchieBunker420 wrote:

I never said anything about cheating. The term "online" is usually used to describe correspondence chess which allows those tools and "live" usually refers to live games played online. I didn't know by live you ment over the board so my post is irrelevant.

I completely share your views about live (rapid, blitz, bullet) vs online (correspondence), correspondence does not feel like real chess imo.

eaguiraud

I prefer OTB chess. And I don't think OTB affects online or vice versa.

fraser22

tools to help/assit you? how is that not cheating?

fraser22

otb.. over the board?

fraser22

so say you had to play 10 games against someone. . say 10minblitz.. play live online or OTB?

fraser22

im just wondering how playing obt vs online will effect your play/ranking. if the chess championship was played through the computer and not OTB.. same outcome?

eaguiraud

fraser22 wrote:

im just wondering how playing obt vs online will effect your play/ranking. if the chess championship was played through the computer and not OTB.. same outcome?

First let's define some terms, online=correspondence, live=rapid-blitz-bullet, OTB=over the board. I am not sure if it would be the same, but probably the results would not differ much.

TRextastic
ArchieBunker420 wrote:

I never said anything about cheating. The term "online" is usually used to describe correspondence chess which allows those tools and "live" usually refers to live games played online. I didn't know by live you ment over the board so my post is irrelevant.

I've never heard "online" refer to correspondence only. Everything on chess.com is online. Live vs daily or live vs correspondance. But it's all online.

thegreat_patzer

chess.com

use to refer to their correspondence games as "online" games (now they call them "daily")

that is why people answered the OP as they did


OTB chess is better chess in just about every way IMHO.

 

people are more sociable and polite, cheating is negligible and hard to do, and slow time controls (or no clock at all) are common OTB.

 

the great difficulty is access and convenience.   people that do not live in large cities will have to make sacrifices in time and effort to get to places where there is OTB chess.

 

 

if the big question is to what is more instructive.   You can NOT easily prove that the OTB variety is more instructive.   Likely in the end, if you goal is to get a high tournament rating- you should obsess on the same OTB slow time controls you will need to master to achieve that rating.

 

 

eaguiraud

TRextastic wrote:

ArchieBunker420 wrote:

I never said anything about cheating. The term "online" is usually used to describe correspondence chess which allows those tools and "live" usually refers to live games played online. I didn't know by live you ment over the board so my post is irrelevant.

I've never heard "online" refer to correspondence only. Everything on chess.com is online. Live vs daily or live vs correspondance. But it's all online.

I am aware that everything is online, but I will just tell you an example. When I first entered V2 I saw "online chess", it was correspondence but I did not know that, I thought that was the only kind of "online" chess.

Jeetreeternel

Online better than live but it is longer.An advantage is that if you lose connection,in an online game you no lose the game.

thegreat_patzer

just to be clear;

the OP Means , Which is better;  playing Over the Board or playing here at chess.com?  

 

this isn't meant to be a discussion of correspondence chess.

thegreat_patzer

post #3

and in Post #11, he seems to ask the question again as between obt (surely a Typo  'OTB')  and online.

 

per TREX's logic. its very reasonable to think "online" means playing chess on a website.

Reb

I much prefer OTB chess to online but play both and these days play more online .  There are  advantages/disadvantages to both , as with most things in life . 

QEM147

There are a few options to begin a game online on Chess.com: “Online” and “Live”. What is the difference between these two options to start a game when both are being played through Chess.com online? I see that they are mostly, and if not entirely, the same except for the button to begin the game is orange for live and green for online. And only one person in this forum seems to have hinted at a difference between Online and Online Live, Jeetreeternel pointed to no loss if internet connection is lost in an online game, hinting to the auto-forfeit feature of the website if internet connection is lost in an online “live” game. Also, I don’t know what a correspondence game is, what is it?