Magnus = Great

Jesus God you make it sound  Revenge of the Nerds II or something

Thats it! This thread has gone too far!. If magnus beats anand in an indian dance competition  involving the "special indian head move" with open palms facing upwards. Hes the man. The greatest. JAI HO!

The greatnes of a player is measured by how far ahead he is/was of the others players of his time; by that standar Bobby have Magnus beat by a good margin and Paul Murphy has him beat a mile! Maybe Fisher was NOT quite as "flashy" as Magnus; but make no mistake he was TERRIBLY effective and ruthlessly exploited the most insifnificant advantage to score the point; as to Murphy, well most of his Opponents did NOT even make to move 20, need I say more about his genious?!

Having said this, there is NO question Magnus is a very talented player and is just a matter of time before he is crown.

Even this mesurement cannot tell us all.

In the time of Morphy there were only a few player that could possibly win a game (against Morphy). So the historic ELO might help. As long as you find a fixed year you refer to (for example the current year).

This means you have to recalculate historic ELO from list to list ...
That's not very practical. (But inflation in ELO let you no other choice!)

Jai Ho!

In which people insult each other for days on end over the results of a game that is played between other people that they do not know. Seriously, I don't understand it with football, and I don't understand it now; how can one hold such vitriol for others they haven't even met before over a game? We're talking about who's better at playing a board game, not who's going to become king of England. Back on topic, I happen to personally believe Carlsen will become the "best player of the world" soon enough, and stay there for a while until he either stops playing for some reason or some new kid randomly comes along and wipes the floor with everyone once again. At the very least, he has to be remembered for what he's accomplished so far - I don't understand how he gets so much hate, honestly.

I think that Anand is counting the days until his imminent defeat, as I know that Magnus will be giving him a lesson in middle games and endgames technique, such as a proffered draw will be kurtley declined.

Yest, and I think that Magnus would acceed well also in UFC, if he used his mind to the utmost, and then, possible he could aspire to become a chief director in the United Nations, and accede at that task as well.  It is something I think we can agree is in the cards at this point.  The writing is alled on the wall.  Fundament.

ELO or no ELO; there is NO question that Fisher was way far ahead of the other players of his time, just look at his games and his tournament results or his win record.

As to Murphy maybe there was lo ELO then, nevertheless it would be comical to try to question his genious and his superiority over the players of his time!

Here is what Bobby Ang , a respected chess columnist in phil chess, former second of GMs. Antonio and Torre, PHil. Chess Organizer and former Memeber of the Phil Chess Federation has to say : Taken from his chess column in Business World dated Dec. 20, 2012

"The ELO rating system is not purely a grading system for players -- it is more of a numerical system in which differences in rating may be converted into scoring or winning probabilities. For example, if you are rated 2600 and I am 2540, the fact that you are 60 points higher than me (the difference between our ratings) is more significant than the fact that you are in the 2600-rating plateau. With a 60-point difference, if we play 100 games you are probably going to win 58 times and lose 42 games. I have this on the authority of Prof. Elmer Sangalang, a worldwide authority on the rating system -- he was the editor of Dr. Arpad Elo when he wrote the definitive book on The Rating of Chessplayers"

haha speaking of anand and kasparov, I personally tend to favor anand over kasparov, just because of his unique style. Not to say that Kasparov didnt have his own, but I just like Anand's better. 

But anyway check out this video. Its a blitz match of Anand vs. Kasparov

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxbMzZ5a2Zg

Watch it until at least 5:00. Then comes the awesome part. 

You know the freakiest part about Carlsen? He's still only 22 years old!!

His best is yet to come!!

Envy clouds the mind. Carlsens will have a decade of greatness.

If I was Mag and I was able to win GM, I would go on a prolonged hiatus of like 8 years then I'd come back and see what the competition is. but don't pull a freaking Bobby Fischer and ignore everyone, but just go and teach then come back at like age 32 and give it another throw

Maybe not the greatest, but yes.

I Agree.

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If he beats Anand and defends the title for for years like Lasker then he'll be the greatest.