Thanks for posting the game
Magnus beats the world in 44 moves
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Thanks.
Well that was embarrasing. I like how Magnus plays the fianchetto against the KID like I do.
Discuss here instead: http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/magnus-vs-world-predictions?lc=1#last_comment
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AnthonyCG wrote:
panderson2 wrote:
Who cares if Carlsen beats some minon . Let's see how the dude fares against Rybka and Fritz, that would be the real deal.
I always equate that to trying to beat your calculator at calculus problems - not much fun...
How can you call it a "real deal" when you play against an inanimated chess computer?
Because Rybka and Fritz are the best chessplayer in the world even GMs say that
even to draw vs them would be a challenge.
Just for a bit of fun, here's what a strong engine on a reasonably powerful system makes of the game using top 4 engine match up methodology & Batch Analyzer tool...
Just to clarify the output log here is an example from the game:
13. Be3 { Qb3 59 19 : Qd3 52 18 : Be3 50 18 : Qc2 43 18 }
On move 13 White played Be3.
The engine preferred 13.Qb3, scoring it 59 at depth = 19 and 13.Qd3 was 2nd choice with a score of 52 at depth = 18. The played move was 3rd choice (in bold) & scored 50 at depth = 18. Obviously where a move is outside of the top 4 engine choices, you can see because none of the output for that move number are in bold.
The conditions for the analysis were as follows:
4 x AMD Phenom 2.30Ghz 4GB RAM
Database Used: Batch Analyzer
Houdini 1.03a x64 4_CPU Hash:512 Time:40s Depth:12-24ply
[Event "G-Star RAW Chess Challenge"]
[Site "New York"]
[Date "2010.09.10"]
[White "Magnus Carlsen"]
[Black "The World"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Plycount "87"]
{ Book Moves: }
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nf3 Bg7 4. g3 0-0 5. Bg2 d6 6. Nc3 Nc6 7. 0-0 e5 8. d5 Ne7
9. e4 c6
{ Analyzed: }
10. a4 { dxc6 27 18 : Be3 25 18 : Qb3 22 17 : a3 21 17 }
10... Bg4 { Qa5 27 19 : a6 26 18 : b6 27 18 : Qc7 30 18 }
11. a5 { h3 38 18 : Be3 33 18 : a5 33 18 : Re1 26 18 }
11... cxd5 { cxd5 28 18 : c5 35 18 : a6 36 18 : Qd7 36 18 }
12. cxd5 { cxd5 29 20 : h3 -57 19 : Nxd5 -64 19 : Qd3 -94 19 }
12... Qd7 { Nd7 33 20 : b6 35 20 : b5 35 19 : Rc8 42 19 }
13. Be3 { Qb3 59 19 : Qd3 52 18 : Be3 50 18 : Qc2 43 18 }
13... Rfc8 { Ne8 50 19 : Bh3 52 19 : Bh5 61 19 : Nxe4 62 19 }
14. Qa4 { Qb3 62 19 : Ra4 54 19 : Qd3 54 19 : Qc2 50 19 }
14... Ne8 { Qxa4 45 19 : Ne8 58 19 : Bxf3 60 19 : Bf8 77 19 }
15. Nd2 { Nd2 56 20 : Rfc1 56 20 : Ra3 51 20 : Ra2 51 20 }
15... Qd8 { Qxa4 58 19 : Bh3 94 19 : Nc7 98 19 : Rcb8 113 19 }
16. Qb4 { Rfc1 106 19 : Qb4 114 18 : Rfe1 105 18 : Rac1 96 18 }
16... Nc7 { Bd7 106 19 : Rcb8 109 19 : Bf8 123 19 : Qc7 126 18 }
17. Nc4 { h3 168 19 : f3 163 19 : Rfc1 111 19 : Rac1 101 19 }
17... Na6 { Na6 106 20 : Ne8 168 19 : Bf8 175 19 : Rcb8 251 19 }
18. Qxb7 { Qb3 110 20 : Qxb7 93 20 : Qa4 87 19 : Qb5 61 19 }
18... Rxc4 { Rxc4 91 20 : Nc5 103 19 : Nc7 290 19 : Qc7 352 19 }
19. Qxa6 { Qxa6 98 21 : h3 0 20 : f3 -67 20 : Na4 -107 20 }
19... Rb4 { Rb4 113 20 : Rc7 122 19 : Rd4 276 19 : Rcc8 280 19 }
20. f3 { Rfc1 110 20 : Ra2 92 19 : Rfe1 90 19 : Rfb1 85 19 }
20... Bc8 { Bc8 102 20 : Bd7 159 19 : Bf5 330 19 : Nf5 366 19 }
21. Qe2 { Qe2 87 20 : Qd3 53 19 : Bb6 -353 19 : Qxa7 -383 19 }
21... f5 { f5 84 19 : Rab8 110 19 : Bd7 114 19 : Kh8 116 19 }
22. Qd2 { Rfb1 87 19 : Qd2 85 19 : Ra2 78 19 : Rfc1 80 18 }
22... Ba6 { Ba6 93 19 : Qd7 96 19 : Rb3 104 19 : Bf6 108 19 }
23. Rfc1 { Rfc1 94 20 : Rf2 88 20 : Rfb1 76 19 : Na4 71 19 }
23... Qb8 { Qd7 96 20 : Rb3 96 20 : Rb7 99 20 : Qb8 101 20 }
24. Na4 { Nd1 101 19 : Rc2 101 19 : Rab1 91 18 : Na4 90 18 }
24... Rb3 { Rb3 91 20 : Rb7 100 20 : Rc4 113 19 : fxe4 115 19 }
25. Rc3 { Rc3 93 20 : Bg5 91 20 : Bf1 88 20 : Rc2 88 20 }
25... Rb4 { Rb7 93 20 : Rb4 93 20 : Bf6 102 20 : Qb7 105 20 }
26. Rca3 { Bg5 106 20 : Rc2 102 19 : Rca3 96 19 : Rcc1 94 19 }
26... f4 { Rb7 110 20 : Rb3 102 19 : f4 122 19 : fxe4 136 19 }
27. Bf2 { Nb6 170 19 : gxf4 132 18 : Bf2 108 18 : Bb6 106 18 }
27... Bh6 { Bh6 179 19 : fxg3 115 18 : Rb7 155 18 : Rb3 179 18 }
28. Nb6 { Nb6 143 21 : Qe1 105 20 : g4 101 20 : Qc2 69 20 }
28... fxg3 { fxg3 149 19 : Rb5 265 19 : Rc4 447 19 : axb6 495 18 }
29. Qxb4 { Qxb4 148 19 : Be3 -207 19 : Qc3 -235 18 : Qxh6 -271 18 }
29... gxf2+ { gxf2+ 173 17 : axb6 513 17 : Nxd5 552 17 : gxh2+ 793 17 }
30. Kxf2 { Kxf2 208 20 : Kh1 28 19 }
30... Bc8 { Bg5 212 19 : Kf7 234 19 : Bc8 247 19 : Bf4 240 18 }
31. Rb3 { Qb5 275 19 : Rb3 237 19 : Qb3 200 18 : Bf1 200 18 }
31... axb6 { axb6 262 18 : Bd2 596 18 : Qc7 960 18 : Be3+ 846 17 }
32. Qxb6 { Qxb6 279 19 : h3 116 19 : Qb5 115 18 : Raa3 67 18 }
32... Qa7 { Qa7 277 19 : Qxb6+ 319 19 : Bb7 910 19 : Be3+ 896 18 }
33. a6 { a6 263 19 : Bf1 259 18 : Qxa7 254 18 : Raa3 207 18 }
33... Kf7 { Kf7 284 22 : Bd2 291 22 : Bg5 304 22 : Kf8 307 21 }
34. Qxa7 { Qxa7 283 19 : Raa3 237 19 : h4 225 19 : Bf1 176 18 }
34... Rxa7 { Rxa7 245 15 : Be3+ 2319 15 : Bxa6 2491 15 : Ke8 2683 15 }
35. Rb6 { Rb6 243 21: Rb8 219 21 : Bf1 162 20 : Bh3 141 20 }
35... Ke8 { Bg5 241 20 : Bd2 242 20 : Ke8 272 20 : Kf8 306 20 }
36. Rxd6 { Bf1 270 20 : Rxd6 262 20 : Ra3 224 20 : Ra4 161 19 }
36... Bf8 { Bg5 280 21 : Bd7 280 21 : Bd2 310 21 : Bf8 344 21 }
37. Rb6 { Rc1 405 21 : b4 347 20 : Rb6 279 20 : Bf1 245 20 }
37... Nxd5 { Nxd5 291 20 : Bd7 378 20 : Ng8 428 20 : Nf5 442 20 }
38. Rb8 { Rb8 292 22 : Rb5 74 22 : Rc6 60 22 : Rb3 0 22 }
38... Bc5+ { Bc5+ 292 21 : Ne7 387 21 : Kd8 387 21 : Nb6 474 21 }
39. Kg3 { Ke1 318 22 : Kf1 315 22 : Kg3 292 22 : Ke2 -4 22 }
39... Ne7 { Ne7 293 21 : Nb6 508 21 : Nc7 562 20 : Kd7 565 20 }
40. Bh3 { Bh3 296 23 : Rc1 174 22 : b4 111 22 : Bf1 68 22 }
40... Kd8 { Bd6 296 20 : Kd8 350 20 : h5 472 20 : g5 478 20 }
41. Bxc8 { Bxc8 400 22 : Rc1 290 21 : b4 191 21 : Rb5 104 21 }
41... Nxc8 { Bd6 387 20 : Nxc8 520 20 : Kc7 557 20 : Nc6 556 19 }
42. Rc1 { Rc1 514 21 : Rb7 252 21 : Rb5 211 21 : b4 209 21 }
42... Rc7 { Be3 508 20 : Rc7 582 20 : Bd4 672 20 : Kc7 713 19 }
43. Rxc5 { Rxc5 682 22 : h4 394 21 : Rc3 356 21 : b4 340 21 }
43... Rxc5 { Rxc5 644 22 : h6 1230 21 : h5 1457 21 : g5 1837 21 }
44. a7 { a7 671 22 : b4 240 21 : Rb7 -18 21 : Rb3 -46 21 }
1-0
{ Game Summary }
{ White: Carlsen, Magnus }
{ Top 1 Match: 19/35 ( 54.3% )
{ Top 2 Match: 24/35 ( 68.6% )
{ Top 3 Match: 30/35 ( 85.7% )
{ Top 4 Match: 31/35 ( 88.6% )
{ Black: The World }
{ Top 1 Match: 19/34 ( 55.9% )
{ Top 2 Match: 24/34 ( 70.6% )
{ Top 3 Match: 27/34 ( 79.4% )
{ Top 4 Match: 29/34 ( 85.3% )
{ All Players }
{ Top 1 Match: 38/69 ( 55.1% )
{ Top 2 Match: 48/69 ( 69.6% )
{ Top 3 Match: 57/69 ( 82.6% )
{ Top 4 Match: 60/69 ( 87.0% )
To say that "the real deal" is Magnus vs Mr. Silicon is a joke. Everyone thinks that this kid is the best, but he has yet to prove himself against the top GMs. The cadidates match for the next WCC will be interesting...he will have the opportunity to play for the title of "the Best".
This guy became the youngest GM at 13...in a game that requires a lot of patience and sacrifice...traits not known for your average teen, and only Kasparov has attained a higher chess rating...we may be looking know at the very best chess player ever to walk the earth. He is also young and marketable, just what the doctor ordered to garner interest in the sport.
On the cautionary path, other chess prodigies have gone mad with compulsion, so Magnus needs to walk that thin line at a very young age. I really do believe that we are looking at the next WCC.
Sep 11, 2010
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#11
Black has better top 1 and top 2 matches with the computer's choice, but was crushed anyway... and 11...cxd5 was pointed out as dubious by Magnus, yet it's also all engines top choice.
Chess is still complicated, and human chess is not computer chess...yet 
The 3 GMs played like total amateurs flat out , they showed that they didn`t know what they were doing : 9...c6 ? their first mistake in this position and it got an immediate thumbs down from Kasparov , then both 10...Bg4 ?! and 11...cxd5 ? made Kasparov cringe then said that :" i don`t like what black is doing " .
conditions were made very easy for things to go wrong for his 3rd tier of GMs opponents and i agree with previous post that this proves nothing for us and he could never even come close to beating even an older version of deep junior live like Kasparov did before
Does anyone know where I can get some high quality pics of Magnus at the board with the city behind him? I did some screenshots of the live feed but I was hoping there were some official photos of him at the board.
sparenone wrote:
The game was lost on move 3.
The primary rule of chess openings.
CONTROL THE CENTER AND MAINTAIN CONTROL OF THE CENTER. This game was a setup. I told you guys. I told you they would make it look good. No way that was a real game. That is what i would expect in junior league.
I checked back on move 3...and they were finishing off the fiancetto. It's not always about centre you know. Defense is needed, and ironically, in the end it was an outer rank pawn which grasped hold of the white's victory.
Sep 11, 2010
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#15
i guess the three gm candidate moves were to prevent it being magnus v the software world, and which red blooded kid player would ever do 9 ...c6, the gm who suggested this move wants stringing up by the short and curlys
>:)
Anthony CG said,
I always equate that to trying to beat your calculator at calculus problems - not much fun...
What about that makes you angry enough to import a picture of a chimp and super - impose CG's face? I think you have some anger issues. I happen to agree with him, so could you make me a jackass, sparerib?
Sparenone's right - I use the Dragon and KID as black, and the games don't last very long. I win pretty quickly =D
Your reaction is a little exeggerate don't you think?
yes you are right , the queen side attack against the Kings Indian is very strong and white almost always wins at least a pawn there , but as black in this game position u have to commit full steam ahead to the king side attack and be ready to throw everything there not just a pawn lost on the queen side .
The GM`s rookei mistake was thinking that they could contest white on his strong side and go totally off track !! with impunity !!
Hi,
I hope everyone's doing well and thought that i should post the game here for convenience. The KID was not such a good idea this time around. Hope you like the game!
P.S it took me ages to post the game as the pgn file wasn't gettable.