Magnus Carlsen vs the World

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sparenone wrote:

ahhh dude i just reviewed your games and stats .........  just turned you around and put my foot in your behind and kicked you down a flight of stairs. When grown folks talk children may be seen and not heard.


 ???

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If your foot was in his behind, wouldn't you have been pulled down the flight of stairs too?

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sparenone wrote:

This right out of several of my chess books. Research it. Look at what was said in the 1990's by the GM's of that time about. And it still holds true.

What GM's?  Can you give references? 

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You wasted your time reviewing my stats?  Wow!  I'm honored!

But I'm pretty sure your foot isn't in my behind.  I think I'd notice that.

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sparenose you think that the KID is a bad system. Then prove how many top GMS like Kasparov and Shirov managed to win many games with it. How did Kasparov become World Champion with the KID as one of his openings?

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sparenone wrote:

Better than that i will tell you which book clearly show it.

"Attack and Defence in Modern Chess." It clearly show how to blow it up. It also shows how another defense that looks like it to the untrained eye and you can get blown up.


 I listed the book already go to the book store and read it. And like i said when you see the Queen side attack coming you get out of it. 

I also that i still us it, have you been reading what i have said . when i sense a player going queen side  i switch out of it automatically. I just stated the only way to consistantly have some type of success is on the queen side.

I also stated that the queen side is the only side a player should attack or your in for a world of hurt. Every defense has its weak points and the queen side is the weakness of the KID. I beleive your angry at me cause i just posted its weakness and you lack knowledge of how to adjust to it.


 ooooh i understand now. Well i dont know the KID, but now your argument becomes acceptable. Before, it came to me like you said the WHOLE of the KID was flawed. So if a queenside attack comes, you switch out of it, thats ok. You didnt mention it before, so sorry for "our" comments, but you know there was a huge misunderstanding.

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The KID playing black is suspect? After move 3 the game was over? After move 4 the game was over?

Here are some players who have played the KID as black and was very successful-

Kasparov, Anand, Carlsen, Karpov, Fischer etc.

Before 1930 the KID was considered suspect, but then came the analysis of Alexander Konstantinopolsky, Isaac Boleslavsky and David Bronstein, and every GM was playing the KID black or white.

The choice of the opening had nothing to do with the World loosing, but rather "too many cooks spoiling the meal"...switching from one GM idea to another, and not following through with a set plan...basically a jumble of ideas. There were a few incorrect moves that were also played, like not trading Queens when it presented itself (move 15), or move 11 cxd5 which gained space for Magnus, but the critical point was 18 Qxb7 which opened the flood gates.

Basically, the World lost because we chose the wrong move at critial points in the game...it should have been a draw, and in the GM analysis Bb5 was considered an error, but I'm not too sure why as yet.

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jesterville wrote:
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Basically, the World lost because we chose the wrong move at critial points in the game...it should have been a draw, and in the GM analysis Bb5 was considered an error, but I'm not too sure why as yet.


It was actually 10 ... Bg4 that was considered the error, I think.  And it did seem to me that it was a pointless move, black had no chance of a kingside attack at that point and the bishop was much better developed naturally either to b7 or d7.  I would have preferred 10 ... c5 or 10 ...cxd5.

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carlsen bribed nakamura

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I'm very hapy for Magnus! Magnus the Magnificient showed his success again!