Morozevich - Offers draw after 12 moves in must win game - anyone any ideas why?

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GlasgowM8

Morozevich lost yesterday in a long complicated game against Grischuk, so Moro has to win today.  We expected a big battle, right down to the wire, that's what Moro's fans (and there are quite a few) and everyone else wanted to happen but this is what happened in this must win game:

[White "Morozevich, Alexander"]

[Black "Grischuk, Alexander"]

[Result "1/2-1/2"]

[ECO "E35"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. Qc2 d5 5. cxd5 exd5 6. Bg5 h6 7. Bxf6 Qxf6 8.

a3 Bxc3+ 9. Qxc3 O-O 10. Nf3 Bf5 11. e3 Rc8 12. Rc1 1/2-1/2

Why would he do that? 

Lack of fight?  Ill?  Psychological reasons?  Anyone know or have an idea why he would do that?  

Sad to see.

kwaloffer

Mentally broken by the loss in the first game. Didn't think he had a chance of winning such an equal position against Grishuk.

trysts

Yes, I read all about that this morning(while I was reading about the Great Judit Polgar!). Morozevich's draw offer definitely belongs in the most amazing moments in chess history. Grischuk himself was pretty astonished by it.

kevinkin

he will have to explain that at some point if he wants to continue with pro chess 

Arctor
kevinkin wrote:

he will have to explain that at some point if he wants to continue with pro chess


 Why? He didn't break any rules. He offered a draw in a position he didn't feel like fighting for a win in.

trysts
kevinkin wrote:

he will have to explain that at some point if he wants to continue with pro chess 


Yes, this reminds me of the scene from "The Royal Tenenbaums", where Luke Wilson just stops playing tennis in the middle of the match. It would have been funny if people said, "Well, he just didn't feel that he could win his serve, so he forfeited the match".

kevinkin

Of course he did not break any rules ... that's not the point ... if you were as close to being at the top of your profession (chance to become world champ) as he was would you not fight and see what happens? Makes no sense unless he fell ill ... if not he fill ill over the sport of chess ... he needs to explain his decision. for goodness sake I have seen 12-13 year olds playing American football with no chance to win compete at as higher level (blocking and tackeling) than this unless he has an excuse ... which he probably does. 

heinzie

Because by playing a short draw, his rating increased by 0.3 points, instead of overextending for a win and losing another -4.7

trysts
heinzie wrote:

Because by playing a short draw, his rating increased by 0.3 points, instead of overextending for a win and losing another -4.7


That would be quite the pathetic reason, given that Navarro(?) lost both rating points and about $8000.00 giving a draw to his opponent in a K+Q vs K+R ending. That's great chess etiquette. Morozevich's decision requires an explanation.

fabelhaft

Moro is a strange genius that often does the unexpected :-)

Arctor
heinzie wrote:

Because by playing a short draw, his rating increased by 0.3 points, instead of overextending for a win and losing another -4.7


 Yeah, because that would take him from #18 in the world all the way down to...erm...#18 in the world

trysts
Godspawn wrote:

The Russian chess federation often "compensates" players to...for the lack of a better word "throw" matches.  The same thing happened during the Petrosian vs. Korchnoi match.  Both players were asked who they thought had the better chance of beating Fischer, and Petrosian said he did.  So...Petrosian "won" the match, and Korchnoi was given entry into some very prestigious tournaments. 


That was The Soviet Union, God. Benko let Fischer take his postion and play in the candidates, even though Fischer didn't qualify.

fabelhaft

Moro of course never risked losing that game, Grischuk would have taken a draw as soon as Moro had given up his winning tries as is the custom in these situations, so rating points were hardly ever the question. I guess Moro just felt that he wasn't going to win from that position and couldn't make himself try.

Lawdoginator

It's hard to think of a good explanation. 

 

His will was probably broken by the loss. 

CzarKasTicDUDE

simply followin' his home-prepared and tenacious variation of the Nimzo called, "12-steps program"   

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve-step_program#The_Twelve_Steps

UVF02368

Stress induced diarrhea.

Crazychessplaya

Probably wanted to watch a soccer game live.

keystone527

If I had to venture a guess, I'd say Morozevich is fed up with the way Grischuk has been offering draws early on in games and did something to illuminate the deal to everybody.  Perhaps he wanted to give an example of the flawed thinking behind accepting a draw 12 moves in.

Now, I personally don't think it's too big of a deal to offer a draw 12 moves into the game, but that's just my $0.02.

Arctor
patrickjones527 wrote:

If I had to venture a guess, I'd say Morozevich is fed up with the way Grischuk has been offering draws early on in games and did something to illuminate the deal to everybody.  Perhaps he wanted to give an example of the flawed thinking behind accepting a draw 12 moves in.

Now, I personally don't think it's too big of a deal to offer a draw 12 moves into the game, but that's just my $0.02.


 So what you're saying is...Morozevich was trolling Grischuk. Interesting Kiss

kevinkin

if we all backed away being drained and emotional human kind would overrun by plants ... where is the derter jeter of chess? ... he runs out every play even when he hits the ball back to the the mound!!! and I hate the Yanks ...