Mouse Slips

I don't think I can learn much from having a Queen slip one square from the one I intended. It is not a mistake of reasoning.

I have learned the hard way to be patient in chess -  not only in strategy but in using the mouse.  I now take an extra fraction of a second every move to make sure the piece is centered over the square before I drop it.  If I'm handling the Queen, I think I take two extra fractions of a second, lol.  Of course, I still screw it up every now and then but I just laugh it off because its just a game so I grin and bear it and give the opponent the hardest line I can find.

"Mistakes are what make us all better players"

I totally agree with you but I am not talking about a mistake and would never ask or grant a take back on a mistake and it bothers me when someone asks to undo a human induced mistake - that is a simple black and white issue. 

I am talking about a computer induced malfunction that is clearly a malfunction of the computer and not the player - this was an issue that I encountered prior to getting my computer repaired - i use a track pad not a mouse. 

People have responded differently to computer induced (NOT PLAYER) induced errors. 

I hate to throw a good game away b/c a computer error and if a mouse slip occurs and it is clear that it was the computer and not the player I take what I consider to be the high road and correct the "COMPUTER" induced error.

These computer induced errors are clear to any mindful chess player and would not occur during a face to face game. 

The use of computers introduces grey areas that didn't exist with traditional face to face matches. One doesn't get better b/c the opponents computer malfunctioned. 

We have 2 types of players when it comes to this issue:

It is up to the individual what type of player they choose to be. 

When my computer malfunctioned and my opponent took what I feel is the low road I would simply resign and say "GG." 

Basically, what I would like to get across is that I appreciate players who are able to see this GREY area and adjust appropriately out of respect for the GAME. 

paul211 wrote:

As I said in another forum it would be helpful to see the move you make !

The move should be written down when you make it, it then would not only a graphical visualization on what the board shows, it would also be a word notation, like bishop to b5  white 3rd move, in the famous opening of the king's pawn at the 3rd move from white, our move must say": "you played b5, is this your move?"

I think there would be less confusion, and if additionnally the program could say phonically ( with a sound message)what we played, then there would almost be no mistake in our move.

Let's all ask Erik on his views, after all is said this site is all about playing better chess.

Even easier, highlight the square that the piece would be dropped on. Jin has this feature and I enabled it. Unfortunately, the pieces are no longer dragged when moving so it's slightly odd.

I don't think you should grant takebacks, it has nothing to do with gaining some cheap points but it encourages sloppy play. Chess is a lot like life in that people need to learn that there are consequences for your actions you move a piece to the wrong square because you are in a hurry then slow down next time. Are you going to get caught running a Meth lab and tell the police sorry can i have a Do Over?

"wrong square because you are in a hurry then slow down next time. Are you going to get caught running a Meth lab "

What???????

Talking about Computer failure - not human error b/c of being rushed, etc.....

Think it is an interesting subject and it has nothing to do with any particular game. If I am on a site that allows takebacks and the move was clearly the result of the computer - mouse slip - then I believe it should be given back. 

It is not the end of the world if someone chooses to take the win b/c of an error. No big deal - and just say NO to METH !!

METH IS BAD MMMMMM- K 

: )

there is NO such thing as mouseslip by computer error.

it can be USER/HUMAN error. or,

it can be MOUSE error where your mouse is not giving good input to your computer.

anyone playing chess online should make sure they have a decent mouse (an optical/digital mouse - not an old mouse with a roller-ball in it). expecting your opponent to make up for your poor mouse isn't that reasonable in my opinion. you can get a really good optical mouse for less than $10.this is by far my favorite mouse - and available for ~$12 shipped to your door! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104051

the only reason takebacks make sense to me is in a teaching situation. you mouseslip in blitz? your problem :)

"anyone playing chess online should make sure they have a decent mouse (an optical/digital mouse"

The word "mouse slip" seems to be the word that people are using to describe moves that are clearly unintended and is a product of the computer age. 

While on vacation I my laptop "thumb pad" began to fail and I periodically made moves that are clearly a computer related error. I was playing on yahoo and really didn't care about my rating so when these moves occurred my opponent would take one of two roads and I would either resign or continue the game. 

What I found interesting was the term "mouse slip" and how people viewed and responded to them. It was a bummer when someone would go for the cheap win @ the expense of an interesting game. 

My computer is fixed now and this is no longer an issue for me. I also no longer play on yahoo now that we have live chess running. 

This could be another topic but I wonder why the level of sportsmanship and general respect is so high on chess.com when compared to my experiences on yahoo chess. 

Best

If it is an obvious mistake then yes. Maybe the guy is disabled, who knows, it's no big deal, at least in an unrated game.