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chrischinchilla

Hello! If a black King and Queen were in their original positions from the game's start, and a white pawn managed to make it all the way to the space in front of the black King, then took the black Queen, can you please answer these questions?

1. Can the move be announced as "Pawn to King's Queen"?

2. Does the white pawn then become a white queen for having reached the back of the board?

Thank you!

macer75

The pawn can become a queen, a rook, a bishop or a knight (this is called promotion) though it is by far most common to promote to a queen. In your example, if the pawn promotes to a queen, the notation of the move (if that's what u mean by announcing) would be exd8=Q.

e is the original file (column) that the pawn was on.

x is the symbol for capturing.

d8 is the black queen's original square.

=Q signifies that you're promoting the pawn to a queen.

Hope that helps!

Metastable

1. I doubt it. But you should include the "check" in the announcement since the new Q places the K in check.

2. There are no special cases for when a pawn reaches the far back rank: it can promote to any piece (R,N,B,Q) that white likes; it doesn't matter if it just took a queen or not.

chrischinchilla

Thank you! Regarding the move announcement, this is for a short story I'm writing, where the character proclaims, "Pawn to King's Queen." (Trust me, there's a reason why it's important for the character to say it.) But I just want to be sure that on some level, even if only informal, it's a valid way to explain the move. Most of my readers won't be formal chess players, but for those that are, I don't want to just say anything. Thanks!

Metastable

The phrasing "to King's blah blah" is related ot the older (descriptive) notation rather than the newer (algebraic) notation which macer described above.  (Wikipedia it...)  But it usually denotes the numeric rank, like "to King's knight four" or "to Queen 7th" rather than "to King's Queen".  The reason you might hear "to King's Bishop 4" is that with two bishops you use "King's Bishop" or "Queen's Bishop" to disambiguate them; there's no need for this with the sole Queen.

qrayons

“Pawn to King’s Queen” doesn’t really make sense. Macer gave the algebraic notation. A more informal way of saying it would be “Pawn takes Queen”. That doesn’t clarify that the pawn promoted to Queen (or that the King is now in check) but most people would assume those things anyways.

TurboFish

One way to attempt to adapt descriptive notation to the phrase you want to include might be: "Pawn to King's Queen 8, check!".  But it should really be "Pawn takes Queen, check!".  There is no reason to specify "King's Queen" since each side starts with one queen.  And captures are distinguished from non-capturing moves by using the "x" symbol (pronounced "takes" or "captures"), as in PxQ+.  Lastly, the "8" would not really be correct since descriptive notation indicates the identity, not the location (unless absolutely needed), of the captured piece.