"Fischer was younger than Spassky, and it was normal that in the first games between them Spassky had better record"
It wasn't only an age thing though, Spassky won against Fischer in 1960, 1966, 1970 and 1972 before Fischer scored his first win. For example Keres was a much easier opponent for Fischer much earlier in his career.
It's hard to say for how long Carlsen will stay interested, and apart from him Caruana is the only player younger than Nakamura to be ranked higher (and against him Nakamura is 3-0). I wouldn't rule out Nakamura as a future World Champion, but actually winning the whole thing isn't easy.
nakamura is just a mediocre player with a inflate rating..thats all
It's hard to say for how long Carlsen will stay interested, and apart from him Caruana is the only player younger than Nakamura to be ranked higher (and against him Nakamura is 3-0). I wouldn't rule out Nakamura as a future World Champion, but actually winning the whole thing isn't easy.
Everybody seems to think that Carlsen will quit ches some day or an other in a few years.
Have a look at history :
Fischer ? First Candidates tournament : 1961
Carreer end : 1973. That's twelwe years and the shortest career for any WC after WW2.
Kasparov : quit when 42.
Anand : 43, still playing today.
Kramnik : 38, still playing today.
Karpov : still playing today.
Korchnoi : still playing today.
Spassky : still playing in 1984, eleven years after losing his title.
Petrossian : WC in 1964, still top 10 in 1978
Tal : WC in 1960, still playing in the 1973 interzonal
Smyslov : WC in 1957, finalist of the Candidates matches in 1984
Botvinnik : WC in 1948, still playing in 1970.
Do I need to continue ?
Pre-war champions began their carreer much later than post-war ones.
But : Capablanca, Alekhine, Lasker, and Steinitz were still playing when they were 50 years old.
In fact the shortest careers for WC were Fischer's (ten years or so in the top 10), and Morphy (who was not a chess professional, not even an official WC).
Note that Fischer didn't quit because he was bored, he was still interested in chess. At least he was interested enough to be aware of Korchnoï situation and to sent him a support telegram when Korchnoï fled the USSR.
yeah, it is a weird claim Nakamura 26 will take the throne of Carlsen 22 when Carlsen gets tired, otherway you know when someone is champion material when he is very young Fischer was know to be champion material at 14/15, same for Carlsen or Giri, prodigal kids... but suddenly appear as future champion at 26? I think Naka is already at the peak of his chess success
yeah, it is a weird claim Nakamura 26 will take the throne of Carlsen 22 when Carlsen gets tired, otherway you know when someone is champion material when he is very young Fischer was know to be champion material at 14/15, same for Carlsen or Giri, prodigal kids... but suddenly appear as future champion at 26? I think Naka is already at the peak of his chess success
All players develop differently. Gelfand turned 44 the year he played his title match, Korchnoi was 47 when he played his first title match, Topalov was 30 when he found a new level, and Aronian was around #50 in his 22nd year. Nakamura didn't reach top 10 until in 2011 so he is a new addition to the top and could still improve quite a bit.
Since Nakamura said he was the biggest threat to Carlsen, they played 3 games, all of which Carlsen won (and Naka played white twice). I doubt Carlsen is scared.
Not unless Carlsen gets hit by a bus.
I think many are a bit too certain that Carlsen will keep the title for a very long time. Anand played World Championships 2007, 2008, 2010, 2012, 2013 and has another one coming up in 2014. This is a long way from Lasker not defending at all between 1896 and 1907. With World Championships being played so frequently and the tournament schedule being so hectic, anything can happen in the future.
I think many are a bit too certain that Carlsen will keep the title for a very long time. Anand played World Championships 2007, 2008, 2010, 2012, 2013 and has another one coming up in 2014. This is a long way from Lasker not defending at all between 1896 and 1907. With World Championships being played so frequently and the tournament schedule being so hectic, anything can happen in the future.
Note that Anand win all those championship save the last one.
In Norway we can wonder who is closest to defeat Magnus, upcoming strong kids that are either IM or almost Im Is IM Aryan Tari (16 years), and the fastest climber, Johan Salomon (17), who has jumped 400 points up to ca 2350 in a year. And there are more strong kids in my club (Aryan is in another club). Maybe none of the kids will make it, but they are in progress.
There are lots of superstrong kids around. Many of them in India, and ca 10 in my club.
yeah, it is a weird claim Nakamura 26 will take the throne of Carlsen 22 when Carlsen gets tired, otherway you know when someone is champion material when he is very young Fischer was know to be champion material at 14/15, same for Carlsen or Giri, prodigal kids... but suddenly appear as future champion at 26? I think Naka is already at the peak of his chess success
All players develop differently. Gelfand turned 44 the year he played his title match, Korchnoi was 47 when he played his first title match, Topalov was 30 when he found a new level, and Aronian was around #50 in his 22nd year. Nakamura didn't reach top 10 until in 2011 so he is a new addition to the top and could still improve quite a bit.
The point being, it will be harder not easier for Nakamura to take the title as he gets older. Carlsen is already better than Nakamura and he's 3 years younger. Maybe Nakamura will be stronger 3 years from now. But what about Caruana and Carlsen who are already stronger AND younger? How much stronger will Vachier-Lagrave be in 3 years? What about Giri and So in 5 years? Carlsen improved 100 points in 5 years. Giri and So following a similiar improvement would be stronger than Nakamura's current peak.
Nakamura's rating has been flat the last 3 years. Aronian has been flat the last 3 years. Grischuk has been flat the last 3 years.
I'm sure some there's a study out there that shows ELO improvement by age, and I'd be willing to bet that Nakamura is at or near his peak based on age.
In Norway we can wonder who is closest to defeat Magnus, upcoming strong kids that are either IM or almost Im Is IM Aryan Tari (16 years), and the fastest climber, Johan Salomon (17), who has jumped 400 points up to ca 2350 in a year. And there are more strong kids in my club (Aryan is in another club). Maybe none of the kids will make it, but they are in progress.
There are lots of superstrong kids around. Many of them in India, and ca 10 in my club.
Aryan Tari
http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=1510045
He is the 23th U-16 Player in the world, I don´t know why consider him ahead from the other 22.
In Norway we can wonder who is closest to defeat Magnus, upcoming strong kids that are either IM or almost Im Is IM Aryan Tari (16 years), and the fastest climber, Johan Salomon (17), who has jumped 400 points up to ca 2350 in a year. And there are more strong kids in my club (Aryan is in another club). Maybe none of the kids will make it, but they are in progress.
There are lots of superstrong kids around. Many of them in India, and ca 10 in my club.
what? Karjakin became GM with 12 years and 7 months those kid aren't even in that orbit
It is difficult to predict things in advance :-) In the mid-90s Kamsky passed the five years older Anand on the rating list and looked like the coming man of the two. Topalov and Gelfand dropped out of top 10 at the end of the 90s and looked like they never would get close to a title match. Morozevich passed them both with a big margin and seemed destined for great things.
Ponomariov was #6 on a couple of rating lists when still 18 years old, and was widely expected to be a future #1 or at least top three today, but has trouble staying in the top 30. Bacrot was top 10 in his early 20s but in his early 30s he is outside top 30. Karjakin was #13 when he was 18 years old but hasn't improved more than marginally the last six years and is now #9.
Some players today predicted to do great things won't improve while others few expect much of will impress in the future. I have a feeling Nepomniachtchi will do better than some of the more mentioned names, he has always impressed me in the few top events he has played.
Nepo (23 y.o., 2735) looks too stable at this point:
No, I love Nakamura's aggressive style and he is fine player but he never won a game against Carlsen; and Magnus is still very young and can get stronger. Anand has a better chance against Carlsen, they have tie score, this actually surprise me, the older player Anand is a tougher opponent and Carlsen could have a much tough match. I am pretty sure Magnus will win against Vishy.
Yup #3 in world. Only he got what it takes
Then, Grischuk is the hot guy right now