Need advice on 3 min Blitz

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Ziryab
Reb wrote:

Serious players don't analyze blitz/bullet games for obvious reasons . Their level/quality is too low compared to slower time controls where you have time to actually think about your moves .  Serious players analyze their serious/slow games and spend the most time on their losses . 

I disagree. Slow games certainly deserve more in-depth analysis, but I think there is some benefit to analyzing blitz/bullet.

These fast games, full of errors, have provided me with an abundance of fresh tactical positions for beginning students.

Using ChessBase to look at my statistics by opening sometimes reveals areas of misunderstanding in openings that I play less often OTB. The mass of blitz and bullet does offer experience, and with analysis comes better understanding.

In terms of deep positional analysis, however, I agree. 

adumbrate

i learned playing the QGD Bg5 and cxd5 system with blitz.. pretty positional plans. like play on queen side

adumbrate

my tactic rating have big jumps and then they stabilize. Like last jump I was 2100 to 2400 in 3 days after being 2100 during 2 months.

 

adumbrate

haha. that is simply because your brain is insisting that everything I say is wrong, like on previous threads..

Oraoradeki

When I had 1100 Blitz, I bought gold membership for a month, raped those 25 tactics a day and by the end of the month, I was knocking the door to 1400 Blitz.

Another advice I can give, is don't walk into your opponent's prepared lines. For example, if your opponent tries the Tennyson gambit on you (1.Nf3 d5 2.e4) chances are he has tricks up his sleeve (or at least know the opening more than you), so why not avoid his preparation and go into safer lines like the Caro-kann (2...c6).

blastforme
skotheim2 wrote:
 

 people forget that they need to analyze

I think your 2000+ blitz rating is an awesome accomplishment to have reached in such a short time. But I wonder if you'd be an even better player if you spent your time playing and analyzing longer games? You have a diamond membership so I assume you use chess mentor also? The benefits from that are probably not very dependent on whether or not you play mainly blitz.

But heres a question... when you play OTB this summer, do you think you will play as if you have a blitz time control? Like, do you think you'll use your time? and if so, do you think maybe that your thought process used during that time would be better if you had practiced/learned with longer games? Do you think your 2000 blitz rating will immediately (or very quickly) transpose itself to a 2000 OTB long time control rating?  I wouldnt pretend to know the answer - I'm just wondering what you expect will happen.... 

TheOldReb

Skotheim , do you play worse chess when you have more time to think ? Thats what your ratings here indicate , your fast chess ratings are considerably better than your slower chess ratings and your otb fide rating . How do you interpret this ?  For me it means you are fast but not yet a strong player ... isnt that a fair assessment ?  Some very fast players arent very strong and some strong players arent very fast ... 

Warbringer33
Reb wrote:

Skotheim , do you play worse chess when you have more time to think ? Thats what your ratings here indicate , your fast chess ratings are considerably better than your slower chess ratings and your otb fide rating . How do you interpret this ?  For me it means you are fast but not yet a strong player ... isnt that a fair assessment ?  Some very fast players arent very strong and some strong players arent very fast ... 

A) He's obviously just more adept at speed chess. He has quick reflexes, good board vision, and outstanding short term tactical calculation.

B) At short time controls, there is virtually no end game.

C) His opponents are a different crop at long chess and THEY have more time to think. Even when he has more time to think, he admits he doesn't need it. He said it's just "blunder check".

All of this is a recipe for stagnation around his current level but hey - We're all watching and waiting to see if his approach does in fact lead to improvement this summer.

Warbringer33
LuftWaffles wrote:

Hi skotheim,

What is your OTB rating, which class will you compete in this summer?

Also, just out of curiosity, what do you analyze after a game of blitz?

Most of the analysis that players seem to invest into blitz chess seems to pertain to their opening preparation and variations. I know I've spoken to several FM's and GM's on and offline who literally play nothing but 3+2 or 5+0 chess online simply for opening prep. Other than that they just study obsessively and play OTB constantly.

Warbringer33
bb_gum234 wrote:

Heh, maybe now I'm assuming too much, but I think after a few tournaments he'll get over that and have a 2000 OTB rating fairly quickly.

But I guess you're right that some players are much better at speed chess than regular chess. And he has posted silly openings he says he premoves (the experience of these being useless for real games)... he's also said if he thinks a long time he gets confused and it's better if he just moves fast... hmm it may not be as simple for him as I thought.

From what I've researched his problem should lie in the endgame in 90+30 time control FIDE events as he moves up toward and beyond 2000. Judging from others who played a ton of speed chess on their climb up, this is typically where they hit a terrible sticking point.

Warbringer33
LuftWaffles wrote:

I think blitz is useful because of the sheer number of games, it provides statistical data, and tells you something about a players strengths and weaknesses.

And of course, if you check up on the opening quickly after each game, and have a good memory, that is incredibly helpful as a way of expanding your repertoire.

Yes but how is this time better spent than playing long chess, analyzing, and studying?

The amount of blitz chess is the key here. How much is just enough but not too much. What you'll see experienced, titled players say time and again is that players who played too much speed chess early on (sub 1800) paid a terrible price for it later. I just think a lot of these players underestimate just how excruciating some of those 2200+ endgames are going to be in a classical time control. I've just never heard of or seen any record of a player reaching master class and beyond without obsessively studying the endgame.

TheOldReb

I have used long sessions of blitz chess in the past to work on openings and found that it helped very little . What helped much more was to go over master games in the same openings and to play training games in these openings against other strong players ( 2000 otb minimum ) . This allowed me to also practice the resulting middlegames AND common endings arising from my selected openings .... blitz does NOT allow such a complete preparation for future contests due to time constraints .  There is no pre move in OTB play and silly openings will be punished when the opponent has time to think ... 

adumbrate

the reason i started playing blitz was because i usually got in time trouble in otb chess. and i most certainly use most of my time in otb chess. i will answer the other questions now. i am not using shift because of some reason it puts me back a page..

adumbrate
LuftWaffles wrote:

Hi skotheim,

What is your OTB rating, which class will you compete in this summer?

Also, just out of curiosity, what do you analyze after a game of blitz?

 i am 1792 fide, and a recent tournament i got 5/9 against 2000+ average.

i analyze the positions that arrise that are new, and try to find atleast one positional error in every game, or atleast one wrong plan, or some kind of error that I can eliminate.

TheOldReb
Ziryab wrote:

I've played over 100,000 blitz and bullet since 1998. My OTB rating climbed from low 1400s to high 1900s, and then dropped back into the 1800s.

 

This speed chess is probably why my OTB is below 2100.

This is surprising and very commendable !  I have to ask ... was blitz and bullet all you were doing during this huge rating jump ? 

adumbrate
Reb wrote:

Skotheim , do you play worse chess when you have more time to think ? Thats what your ratings here indicate , your fast chess ratings are considerably better than your slower chess ratings and your otb fide rating . How do you interpret this ?  For me it means you are fast but not yet a strong player ... isnt that a fair assessment ?  Some very fast players arent very strong and some strong players arent very fast ... 

 my standard rating on chess.com i guess is because i only play rapid games, being 15|10, 15|0. plus a few games i played blindfolded so my rating didnt go up so fast since my rating was pretty low after playing back when i was 1300 blitz..

adumbrate

in the nationals it is going to be 90|30 (+30 secounds per move)  =  90 minutes + 30 minutes after 40 moves + 30 secounds per move every move starting move 1

Warbringer33
skotheim2 wrote:

in the nationals it is going to be 90|30 (+30 secounds per move)  =  90 minutes + 30 minutes after 40 moves + 30 secounds per move every move starting move 1

See, I live about 75 miles north of NYC currently. The Marshall Club in Manhattan is my best bet for regular FIDE games at that classical TC and I'm currently working on a way to get myself in and out of the city regularly again so I can begin working on that. I'm far more interested in FIDE than USCF.

In the meantime there are a lot of USCF swiss's around the area ranging from G25/5d to G65/5d and I'm playing in a 45/45 & 90/30 league online.

TheOldReb

I like the FIDE time control of G/90  +30 sec increment best and sure do miss it since moving back to the US , the games were better and decided on the board more with far fewer games decided by the clock ... which I prefer . 

heyRick

Thank you everyone for taking the time to help me out. Peace!