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hi...im looking for something sharp against the caro kann and the panov botvinnik seems it...or am i mistaken?is there anything i should know before delving into this variation?
sorry for multiple posts btw...stupid phone does it everytime🙈
Jan 21, 2017
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The Panov-Botvinnik is a good weapon against the Caro-Kann in my experience.
Just be sure to study the strategies involved in isolated queen pawn positions before playing it.
Jan 21, 2017
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More aggressive than the P-B is the Advance variation with e5.
I shredded a 2100 player in a nice game with that.
I shredded a 2100 player in a nice game with that.
urk wrote:
doesnt that lead to a closed position?did you post an annotated game?☺ would be pretty cool to see your ideas in the advance variation
More aggressive than the P-B is the Advance variation with e5.
I shredded a 2100 player in a nice game with that.
urk wrote:
doesnt that lead to a closed position?did you post an annotated game?☺ would be pretty cool to see your ideas in the advance variation
More aggressive than the P-B is the Advance variation with e5.
I shredded a 2100 player in a nice game with that.
OldPatzerMike wrote:
noted thanx☺ im wondering though...do caro kann players favour closed positions like french players?
The Panov-Botvinnik is a good weapon against the Caro-Kann in my experience.
Just be sure to study the strategies involved in isolated queen pawn positions before playing it.
Jan 21, 2017
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Masterfowler, the Advance the way I play it is not a closed position. You can play much more aggressively than this Be2 stuff.
But I'm only here on a phone through the app so I can't post games properly, can't do much of anything.
But I'm only here on a phone through the app so I can't post games properly, can't do much of anything.
way back when i was playing otb i saw black almost always trying to trade light squared bishops in the advance variation...is this common?the reason for my questions is im playing my 1st otb tourney in 11 years 2 weeks from now...for the 1st time in my life im spending actual time on the opening...resulting pawn structures etc...so any advice will be helpful☺☺☺
Jan 21, 2017
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masterfowler wrote:
OldPatzerMike wrote:
The Panov-Botvinnik is a good weapon against the Caro-Kann in my experience.
Just be sure to study the strategies involved in isolated queen pawn positions before playing it.
noted thanx☺ im wondering though...do caro kann players favour closed positions like french players?
I used to play the CK and steered for as closed a position as I could. The Advance is certainly sharp, but I didn't have as much of a problem with it as with the Panov. Probably mostly a matter of personal style and psychology. As white, I adopted the Panov and had much success with it, even beating a 2150 in an OTB tournament.
I'd suggest looking at both the Advance and the Panov and going with whichever one you're more comfortable with.
Good luck in your tournament.
thanks Mr Mike☺ im super rusty...the players for the specific tournament has been getting stronger...2014 the strongest player was a 1600...last year a 2000+ won it🙈 as long as i learn from the experience all is well☺ i also believe my preparation will help a lot😆
Jan 21, 2017
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I know all about being super rusty: next month, I'll be playing in my first tournament in 25 years. The big decision is whether to play in the under 2100 section or the under 1800 section. I've gone back and forth on it; as of right now, it will be the under 2100. No guts, no glory.
Oddly enough, I haven't decided on openings yet. Still reviewing middle game structures and practicing tactics and endgames. There is so much to catch up on, and so little time.
The Panov is not a strong option if black knows the theory. The endgame variation takes all the bite out of it.
Jan 21, 2017
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urk wrote:
More aggressive than the P-B is the Advance variation with e5.
I shredded a 2100 player in a nice game with that.
I shredded a 2100 player in a nice game with that.
Different strokes. I've used the KIA against the Caro with good success. It gets quite tactical if Black opts for e7-e5.
now im going to ask a super novice question. .what are the common goals for white in the caro kann?whats the ideals squares to occupy and to control?what should white try to prevent?and what are the usual attack plans?