Major tournaments would probably have to be sanctioned by FIDE, and many people are not enthralled with that organization.
Most likely they wouldn't be sanctioned by FIDE. Doesn't an event in such cases have to be held by a FIDE member, i.e. like the USCF?
I think we'd have to fore go FIDE ratings until a national organization asserted itself.
Most likely they wouldn't be sanctioned by FIDE. Doesn't an event in such cases have to be held by a FIDE member, i.e. like the USCF?
You're right. I was trying to make the point that a national organization is needed regardless of what we think of it. Needed a better example.
Question: Could an FIDE member other than the USCF sponsor a tournament in the US?
You may need to pay for state federation membership. That is completely up to the TD. Most of our local tournaments haven't required that. The last one I ran, did require it (lowest available rate is $5 for my state) and the only reason I did that was for a benefit the state affiliate provides if memberships are required (though I haven't yet received that benefit 
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I play in a few tournaments in a neighboring state and the ones I have went to there have included the state affiliation fee in the entry fee, so you don't really see it ($20 or $25 for entry on 1 day tourney and I think it is around $50 for their 2 day ones). Not sure how they account for people that already have paid in a previous tourney within the previous 12 months.
Most states in the southeast only require you to be a member of the state organization if you are a resident of the state. If you reside in a different state and are a member of some other state organization they accept that and dont require you to join their state organization.
does FIDE bother to rate people below 2000 ?? some, below 1200 don't need a rating do they ?
FIDE are now rating down as far as 1200.
You shouldnt be paying extra to play fide rated chess. National federations that are members of FIDE pay these charges and members of national federations that are members of fide are , in fact, members of fide. An individual cannot join fide like an individual can join uscf.
does FIDE bother to rate people below 2000 ?? some, below 1200 don't need a rating do they ?
FIDE are now rating down as far as 1200.
Yes, its all about money. having a FIDE rating used to mean something back when they didnt rate those below 2000 and maybe it was even 2200 at some point ? I think ratings ( uscf ) should start at 1200 myself and if you arent good enough for 1200 ( which is very weak ) you should simply be listed as "unrated" until you are. FIDE should go back to 2000 or even 2200 but they won't ofcourse because of money.
Reb,
in the 70's and 80's certainly it was 2200 for a FIDE rating, not sure when it started sliding down.
You may need to pay for state federation membership. That is completely up to the TD. Most of our local tournaments haven't required that. The last one I ran, did require it (lowest available rate is $5 for my state) and the only reason I did that was for a benefit the state affiliate provides if memberships are required (though I haven't yet received that benefit )
I play in a few tournaments in a neighboring state and the ones I have went to there have included the state affiliation fee in the entry fee, so you don't really see it ($20 or $25 for entry on 1 day tourney and I think it is around $50 for their 2 day ones). Not sure how they account for people that already have paid in a previous tourney within the previous 12 months.
In California last time I checked there were two state chess organizations, sccf (southern calif) and calchess. Membership in one or the other was mandatory based on your residence address but allowed you to play in chess tournaments (when you could find them) all over California. When I played in Oregon or Nevada if I remember right they did not expect me to join their state organization because I was a non resident, which is fair-but why should I have to join uscf plus a state organization and then (if I want a FIDE rating) FIDE, too on top of entry fees and other costs associated with playing in tournaments (travel hotel, food).
Chess as a hobby is just a money pit.
The only thing you need to run a USCF rated chess tournament is to have a current USCF TD and a current affiliate to sponsor/authorize the tournament. If someone in CA wanted to run a rated chess event without requiring state affiliate memberships then they could. The only thing they can't do is hold a state championship and expect it to be valid in the USCF's eyes; that is reserved for the state affiliate.
As to the FIDE ratings, that is paid by the sponsoring affiliate. If they want the event FIDE rated they must abide by FIDE rules and pay the extra rating fees (not paid directly by the player, though entry fees will likely be higher to cover that cost) to have the event rated under both rating systems (USCF and FIDE).
I played in a tournament at the weekend with 48 players. They originally planned to have three sections, but merged it into one. Does this not happen in the US?
Generally speaking, the format advertised is the one that has to be played for rated events. I'd have to look up the rules on it, but it may actually be required unless.
I have seen and have used "sections may be combined" for tournaments. Sometimes it might be listed that multiple sections may be used based on high turnout; one for my state right now lists there will be two sections based on rating if 18+ players show up.
Generally speaking, the format advertised is the one that has to be played for rated events. I'd have to look up the rules on it, but it may actually be required unless.
I have seen and have used "sections may be combined" for tournaments. Sometimes it might be listed that multiple sections may be used based on high turnout; one for my state right now lists there will be two sections based on rating if 18+ players show up.
How many rounds is this particular tournament ?
Generally speaking, the format advertised is the one that has to be played for rated events. I'd have to look up the rules on it, but it may actually be required unless.
I have seen and have used "sections may be combined" for tournaments. Sometimes it might be listed that multiple sections may be used based on high turnout; one for my state right now lists there will be two sections based on rating if 18+ players show up.
How many rounds is this particular tournament ?
Interestingly enough, the USCF site doesn't age out there tournaments very well ... the one I was looking at was from June. But it was 3 round swiss format, G/75.
Yes it does. The TD has the liberty to combine players so that everyone will have enough opponents to play. Final standings and repartition of prizes are also at the discretion of the TD.
Advertised prizes have to be paid out or you risk losing your affiliation. The discretion is only in the tournament announcements. Once the event happens you have to live by the prizes in the tournament advertisements.
The are very specific rules on how final standings and prize distributions must be handled. TDs don't really any discretion in that and deviations to the standard methods are suppposed to be listed in pre-tournament information/announcements.
A good friend of mine ( also an NM ) recently played in a tournament and scored 3-2, winning 3 games and losing two. He won first place for under 2200 ( he is a senior and his rating has dropped below 2200 ) and got a mere $100. for his result , which didnt even cover his 2 nights in a hotel. Contrast this with the winner of the under 1400 section winning $300. and I dont know what to say about this type of situation other than good players are " punished " for being good players . The winner of the under 1400 section didnt play anyone over 1400 while my friend played 1 IM and 2 NMs , 1 A, player and 1 B class player. Where is the incentive to improve in US chess ?! This type of prize structure only encourages sandbagging practices imo. I pointed this out to my friend and he said that if you dont appeal to the weaker players to come there will be NO prize fund ! He is right ofcourse and this is one of the big problems/weaknesses of US chess and explains why US players are at a huge disadvantage compared to their European counterparts... the incentive to improve is removed from US players due to the fact that the prizes all come from entry fees and there is no sponsorship in the US as there is in Europe. While my friend is correct I think I am also correct and that the better you get in the US the more you are punished !
rubbish
world champions win millions.. there is plenty of incentive....
(the public would like to apologize to you for not funding you in your hobby!) ha ha ha hahaha
if there was lots of money in local chess... everyone would just stay at that low level
A good friend of mine ( also an NM ) recently played in a tournament and scored 3-2, winning 3 games and losing two. He won first place for under 2200 ( he is a senior and his rating has dropped below 2200 ) and got a mere $100. for his result , which didnt even cover his 2 nights in a hotel. Contrast this with the winner of the under 1400 section winning $300. and I dont know what to say about this type of situation other than good players are " punished " for being good players . The winner of the under 1400 section didnt play anyone over 1400 while my friend played 1 IM and 2 NMs , 1 A, player and 1 B class player. Where is the incentive to improve in US chess ?! This type of prize structure only encourages sandbagging practices imo. I pointed this out to my friend and he said that if you dont appeal to the weaker players to come there will be NO prize fund ! He is right ofcourse and this is one of the big problems/weaknesses of US chess and explains why US players are at a huge disadvantage compared to their European counterparts... the incentive to improve is removed from US players due to the fact that the prizes all come from entry fees and there is no sponsorship in the US as there is in Europe. While my friend is correct I think I am also correct and that the better you get in the US the more you are punished !
rubbish
world champions win millions.. there is plenty of incentive....
(the public would like to apologize to you for not funding you in your hobby!) ha ha ha hahaha
if there was lots of money in local chess... everyone would just stay at that low level
You do realize I am referring to chess in the USA, don't you ? What do you know about chess in the USA ?
What are they drinking in Hungary?
Egri Bikavér.
Why cant states use an elo rating program and keep track themselves of the ratings for registered players in their own states and just cut USCF out completely ?
There's nothing that stops the state organizations from doing that if they have the resources. However, I don't think that that most state organizations have the resources, and they are happy to let the USCF perform the service. Additionally, there would have to be coordination between the states, and eventually, a USCF type organization would evolve.
Major tournaments would probably have to be sanctioned by FIDE, and many people are not enthralled with that organization.