PUZZLES (Think out of the box) - What is white's best move in these two positions

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JayeshSinhaChess
 
 So you are playing a game on chess.com. You are white and find yourself in this position. It is white to play. What is white's best option?
 
 
 
 Same premise as the problem above. White to play. What is white's best option?
 
Please try not giving away the solution in this thread if you figure it
 
out. Message me. I will post a reply to this thread tagging you in the reply to say you got it right, if you did.
JayeshSinhaChess

Hint - 'Resign' is not the solution.

JayeshSinhaChess
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TheCalculatorKid

I can't see a way that out for white there tbh

JimSheridan
Offer a draw. Seems to be the go to tactic here when you're losing.

Seriously, it's check mate next move no matter what you do. The King is trapped wiht no escape, and you have no way of winning a tempo, checking, or threatening the opposition piece in any way. Interesting that a King and Knight/ Bishop situation would normally be unwinnable for Black though.
JayeshSinhaChess

@TheCalculatorKid - You are not thinking out of the box enough. Its a very left field solution.

 

@JimSheridan - Somewhere in what you wrote, you touched on what is the base for the solution to both the problems. You use something in connection to one of the things you touched upon in your post and use it as the base to the solution.

JimSheridan
No. There is no solution. This is literally impossible. Check mate next move.
JayeshSinhaChess

@JimSheridan - Every word you wrote is absolutely correct (except the no solution part)... and YET ... within the parameters outlined in the original problem, white has a very clever way out. grin.png

 

Keep thinking happy.png

JimSheridan
No. Unless your solution is so,etching stupid like "abandon the game," or "challenge your opponent to a dance contest" it simply can't be done. It's unwinnable. Not even a draw. Mate next move.
TurpantineNYC

What side of the board is what? With such a ridiculous position the first thing I need to know is which way the pawns are moving. I noticed that the only possible way to avoid checkmate is if the king is on h8...

JimSheridan
Even if the King is on h8 that wouldn't solve the second problem.
Chessplayer6464

Only possible solution; Kb2 and draw with 3rd repetition of position rule (but why black is not make check mate earlier..)

TurpantineNYC
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mojo_jojo_1985

Pawn g6 to g7

TurpantineNYC

If the king is on a1 in the second problem I’m done with this thread.... talk about an impossible position Jim

JamesAgadir

Let it time out and chess.com will give you a draw by insufficient material.

JayeshSinhaChess

The board is from black's point of view. So White king is a1 in problem one and h1 in problem 2.

 

The critcism regarding board configuration is justified. I do apologise. Leaving co-ordinates on the board would have helped.

 

The boards in the OP have been fixed to be from White's point of view now.

JamesAgadir

To explain my answer. It is clearly stated that we are playing a game on chess.com and that we should think outside the box. On chess.com if you opponent has only a knight or a bishop then you can simply time out and it will be called a draw by insufficient material.

TurpantineNYC

I agree with James. Letting the game time out is whites best “option”. Notice how he never asks for white’s best move. Good stuff James

JayeshSinhaChess

@JamesAgadir - you got the solution. However could you please if possible delete the correct answer. Lets give it a while for the rest of the guys to figure it out. However you are the first to get it right.