Religious Reason for not Notating
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So I'm reading the USCF rules of chess for fun. I'm also a religion scholar. So I come across the rule about not having to keep a scorecard it there is a genuine religious reason for it. For the life of me I can't think of what it could be.
Anyone?
Jun 1, 2017
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'Work' on the Sabbath? I've heard about elevators that accept voice commands because pushing buttons is a no-no.
Jun 1, 2017
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Strangemover wrote:
'Work' on the Sabbath? I've heard about elevators that accept voice commands because pushing buttons is a no-no.
In Israel, at some hotels, they have shabbat elevators that run unmanned continuously on Sundays. Its up to the person to get on and off at each floor.
Jun 1, 2017
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Perhaps that's what I was thinking of. Guessing it's hard to get bacon there too.
Jun 1, 2017
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Strangemover wrote:
Perhaps that's what I was thinking of. Guessing it's hard to get bacon there too.
I would hope not...
Jun 1, 2017
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Weird, some of my comments seem to get deleted but not by any moderator's action...
Anyway, Orthodox Jews do extend the "Shabbat" work ban to many other things, and that includes "chess moves writting" I think. Well, for "pro" players, it should then also include chess playing then, but that's just me saying it. Then, possibly, but I'm not sure, the "Adventists of the 7th day" (some neo Protestant faction) who wants to practice Shabbat like the Jews, might apply the same ban due to similar (and likely abusive, so I think) interpretations.
At some stage abusive and nonsensical interpretation of "God's will" kicks in chronically among men, because men love to push things to the extreme for many reasons that seem all wrong to me.
Jun 1, 2017
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Playing chess is not work, but keeping score is - even though keeping score is part of the rules of the game? By that logic, having to calculate ahead is work, so a 2nd board must be set up so the player doesn't have to work and calculate in his head!
I coached Jewish teenagers who, at a tournament, were giving a pizza place a hard time, saying their pizza had to be delivered in a separate truck so that it wouldn't be contaminated by the pork-products in the pizzas other players ordered. I asked their father about it and he hit the roof, ordering his sons to call the place back and apologize.
Ever since, I've cast a wary eye at any religious claim during chess or other sports.
Jun 1, 2017
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MickinMD wrote:
Playing chess is not work, but keeping score is - even though keeping score is part of the rules of the game? By that logic
Whoa whoa whoa, stop right there. That's a fatal mistake, you're trying to apply logic to religion.
Jun 1, 2017
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IMBacon wrote:
Strangemover wrote:
'Work' on the Sabbath? I've heard about elevators that accept voice commands because pushing buttons is a no-no.
In Israel, at some hotels, they have shabbat elevators that run unmanned continuously on Sundays. Its up to the person to get on and off at each floor.
What an embarrassment to our species. Completely ridiculous.
Jun 1, 2017
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sammy_boi wrote:
MickinMD wrote:
Playing chess is not work, but keeping score is - even though keeping score is part of the rules of the game? By that logic
Whoa whoa whoa, stop right there. That's a fatal mistake, you're trying to apply logic to religion.
You could not be more wrong dear. As history proves, logic got banned from religious talks every time some religious faction tried to enforce some abuse. Logical thinking has been by such people named "devilish" and whatmore, while more sincere religious people tried hard to fight them by logic. You can take a read upon Protestantism any time and see the public debates that happened, and forced the Roman Catholic Church into counter reform by fear to see all of their followers switch side by the strenght of reason.
Jun 1, 2017
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Icare001 wrote:
sammy_boi wrote:
MickinMD wrote:
Playing chess is not work, but keeping score is - even though keeping score is part of the rules of the game? By that logic
Whoa whoa whoa, stop right there. That's a fatal mistake, you're trying to apply logic to religion.
You could not be more wrong dear. As history proves, logic got banned from religious talks every time some religious faction tried to enforce some abuse. Logical thinking has been by such people named "devilish" and whatmore, while more sincere religious people tried hard to fight them by logic. You can take a read upon Protestantism any time and see the public debates that happened, and forced the Roman Catholic Church into counter reform by fear to see all of their followers switch side by the strenght of reason.
As history proves the Catholic church was behaving irrationally, therefore Protestants, and by extension religion in general, is logical? I don't even know where to begin. Really? This is your argument?
Simply to survive any human institution must have some logic to it, of course this goes for religion as well. However religion is an exercise in faith not logic. It champions mysticism not pragmatism. It values tradition for its own sake, and rejects new knowledge. At the core of religion are imaginative fairy tales and lies. If any human institution is anti logic, it's religion.
Maybe this is upsetting for you to hear. If so, just pretend I'm talking about the 9 out of 10 religions you think are asinine, we can save talk about the one religion your parents or culture happened to introduce you to when you were a child for last.
