Resign! Resign! Resign! But when?

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kco

aarrgghh !! don't mention 'vacation' !!

kco

ohh you ratbag, you were just teasing me were you !? Laughing

polydiatonic
dsarkar wrote:

Just a few points.

 

(1) what are we playing the game for:

  (a) for learning - should not resign (learn how to defend in losing position)

  (b) for enjoyment - should resign/offer draw when it is no longer enjoyable

  (c) for points - should resign as late as possible - when 99% sure of loss

 

(2) under no condition we should we do (1) at other's expense/annoyance.


Yes...

rigamagician

dsarkar may have missed one.  What are we playing for?  If it is to make friends with other players who share our interest in chess, then you should probably resign once you realize you are lost, and offer a rematch.  Everyone likes a good sport.

sodaiho

One thing I have learned is that resigning when I know the game is lost can maintain psychological energy for other games.  Playing a lost game is often not just a waste of time, but emotional energy, as well.

 

Be well.

philtheforce

i generally resign when my position looks hopeless .... or sometimes if i make a massive blunder, e.g. give my queen away for nothing i might resign a game then. OTB i really consider options because there has been times where i nearly resigned but thought about it and went onto draw and in one instance i actually won the game. My best advice, is to weigh up the situation and look position through and if completely lost then i would probably resign?

kco

Perfect ! I'll have one those outside but for one thing though I'll never be able to see a white thing on top down here! lol

GR1DLOCK
AnthonyCG wrote:

 

Well in a K vs K+Q situation for example, it is curteous to simply resign since theres no way that the losing side could "force" a draw. Continuing on in an online tournament would pointlessly cause it to last from a week to months longer. It's a real waste of time especially since you could just start a new game instead.

I agree with an online tournament and resigning due to time, but in a normal game it may be different. How many times have we've seen a player loose his oe her nerve or make a stupid mistake in the end game and the supposed looser who we all thought should resign won in the end? Even if he was down more peices than his opponent. Keep in mind I am not talking about GM games here, where they know when to resign and when not too because they have played that game or varation thousands of times. I mean local guys like us and our games.

rooperi
BorgQueen wrote:

Bugga... I knew I'd miss that... it's only a factor if the venue is outdoors though... and I forgot ambient room temperature too!


Wind is often a problem for me, in round 7 of the last Swiss I played in my table number was so high it was out in the car park.

mountainsong

Resigning is a choice, and if not resigning annoys your opponent...so what?  I agree with you MICKEY!

BiggieRat

I have played on with mate sitting on the board and my opponent did not play into that line and drew the game. I resign when my opponent plays into a forced mate line of play. OR your opponent shows he knows the how to draw. Simple, the answer to your question is that simple. Robert James Fischer played on when other GMs would call it a draw and go have a beer.

Of course there is also the clock factor. Winning on time from a dead lost poition is a cheapo way to win or lose.

BiggieRat

correction "OR your opponent shows he knows the how to draw refers to acepting a draw not resigning. A little off topic, but related.

ozzie_c_cobblepot

Some people thought that Senator Clinton played on well past when others would have resigned. But it got her a promotion!

rigamagician
ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote:

Some people thought that Senator Clinton played on well past when others would have resigned. But it got her a promotion!


She must have reached the eighth rank.  Maybe she is still stinging from Bill's earlier mating attacks.  Wink

theresalion

extremely bad position and down at least a piece

bigpoison
ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote:

Some people thought that Senator Clinton played on well past when others would have resigned. But it got her a promotion!


Haha, ziiiiiiiiing!

Good one.

TheYear9876
AfafBouardi wrote:

Some people seem to get really peeved about others who don't resign right away.  I sort of understand because I get pissy when someone keeps playing a draw hoping for a mistake.  

Question is...when do you think someone should resign?  A piece down against a higher rated opponent?  If your queen is blundered should you? Not until all your pawns are dead?  I'd like to get some thoughts on this as I'm always wondering whether my opponent is thinking I should resign.  


Ziryab
Pegrin wrote:

Resigning is for the convenience of the player who thinks his/her own position is hopeless, not of the player who is winning. If you still have hope, then play on. Just don't take forever to make your moves! It's OK to make your opponent prove an advantage over the board.


Pegrin's answer is among the clearest and most reasonable that I've seen.

I resign when two conditions are met:

1. I am assured of the loss.

2. There is nothing left for me to learn from watching my opponent finish the rout.

Even when these two are met, I might slow down and play on in certain conditions, such as a team match against a player suspected of engine abuse (already reported) in hopes that he or she will be banned before checkmating me. I have adopted this tactic two or three times during the course of more than 1000 turn-based games on more than a dozen sites.

ilikeflags

i know when it's time for me to resign, but everyone has their own opinion.  here's an example of someone with a pretty funny opinion about their chances in a game.  and the worst part is, he's using almost every second of his time to make his moves.  i'm not really worried cuz the game is obviously going to be mine, it just might not happen until february sometime.  maybe i'll promote 4 or 5 queens and toy with him a bit.

http://www.chess.com/echess/game.html?id=29754347

part of his problem might be that he's playing like 150 games.  i don't know how people manage that.  i guess like this.

Steinwitz

@ilikeflags

Yes, a waste of time, but also funny. He probably didn't even understand how it went south at 22. ... Bf5, and then went on hoping for you to drop your Queen, I guess.

Very inexperienced player, though, and definitely not being helped by an engine, at least that's something!