snits wrote:
Out of curiosity did you analyze the reply Nc5 in the game and what did you think black's best response was to N:f7 ?
Nope. Didn't even consider Nc5 when I played Nf7
Rybka didn't find this move till 16 DEPTH!!
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Oct 24, 2009
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philidor_position wrote:
immortalgamer wrote:
philidor_position wrote:
immortalgamer wrote:
WOW!!!! You make it sound like BIGGG!!!! deal. Rybka 3 takes less then 1 second to see Nxf7.
Ummm.. Yeah Rybka 3 is rated around 3100. So yes I think it is a big deal. I think I just have an old slow computer and this is why it took till 16 depth. I was excited about it and if you don't mind, since you have Rybka 3. Could you let it run on the position for 10 mins. and see if there is a deeper "better" move that I missed?
Why the negativity toward my post? Don't understand people like you?
Sorry, I just don't appreciate use of multiple exclamation points and capital letters on forums. I find it the same with just raising your voice in the middle of a discussion with no good reason.
In looking at this forum you are the only one who used Caps and multiple exclamation points. It was also your first post (in the middle of a discussion for no good reason).
So what are you sorry for? But more importantly what post made you upset enough to write.
Oct 24, 2009
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#44
immortalgamer wrote:
philidor_position wrote:
immortalgamer wrote:
philidor_position wrote:
immortalgamer wrote:
WOW!!!! You make it sound like BIGGG!!!! deal. Rybka 3 takes less then 1 second to see Nxf7.
Ummm.. Yeah Rybka 3 is rated around 3100. So yes I think it is a big deal. I think I just have an old slow computer and this is why it took till 16 depth. I was excited about it and if you don't mind, since you have Rybka 3. Could you let it run on the position for 10 mins. and see if there is a deeper "better" move that I missed?
Why the negativity toward my post? Don't understand people like you?
Sorry, I just don't appreciate use of multiple exclamation points and capital letters on forums. I find it the same with just raising your voice in the middle of a discussion with no good reason.
In looking at this forum you are the only one who used Caps and multiple exclamation points. It was also your first post (in the middle of a discussion for no good reason).
So what are you sorry for? But more importantly what post made you upset enough to write.
You gotta be kidding.
Rybka didn't find this move till 16 DEPTH!!
Oct 24, 2009
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Oh you got all hot and bothered by my title. I stand corrected. You are completely warranted in your anger at my post 
. What a jerk I am for capitalizing "Rybka" and adding two exclamation points. Sorry for being a big jerk.
I think you make the wrong analysis of your move here. The question is not whether that was the best move in this position, the question is whether that move is as good as you make it sound. Let me ask you what was the score before and after Nxf7 and if the difference is big then that is what you need to highlight, otherwise "big deal".
I haven't made a deep analysis here but it has been suggested that Nc5 was a better counter than Kxf7, and with equal play. So your friend might have been right when he claimed he had equalised the game, but then blundered afterwards.
Please note that I'm not saying that the move doesn't deserve any special attention. What I'm saying is that all the discussion here revolves around how long it took the engine to decide it was the best move (maybe the margin against other moves was just too small). But is that the key move for winning the game? Is the Nc5 answer enough to continue with equal play? etc.
I look for tactics in every position during play. I know my limitations as a player will never allow me to be a master of this game. I don't have the time to invest in practice, and I'm not a good enough natural player to move beyond much where I am currently. With that said, I do have some games where everything I have learned comes together and I play really really strong games. This was a 10 min. game I played with a friend here online who usually I war with in 1 min games. He hates how I play the sicilian and berrates me for it (lol). I guess he is right theoretically, but I always say neither of us are good enough for theory to matter much! I always ask myself. If Morphy could beat this guy with this opening even if it equalizes to quickly, then I have a chance to beat him too. Not that I'm as good as Morphy (not at all), just gives me a point of reference to focus on that anything is possible in chess. I think all gambiteers are a bit like this.
After this game I was most interested in the sacrifice I made. Obviously it was a ten min game so I had only about 2 mins to think about this move. I brought the position into Rybka after the game and gave it 2 hours to think. It kept giving me Be3 as the best move until it hit the 16 Depth threshhold and Nxf7! came up. YES. Validation. Hope you enjoy the game and the move Nxf7!
Out of curiosity did you analyze the reply Nc5 in the game and what did you think black's best response was to N:f7 ?