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dragonair234 wrote:
drunkjosh wrote:
JayBo308 wrote:
No chess club, dragonair. Try to play sometimes with some locals but one guy cheats by taking his moves back and another guy talks too much during the game, like forecasting moves or explaining what COULD have happened two moves ago. Aaaargh--that drives me nuts. Sometimes it's nice to just play a silent online game.
With people who aren't really chess players, unfortunately sometimes you have to put up with things like this if you want to help them get into the game. We have a couple local chess clubs; I orgnanized one of them personally, but it isn't really a "chess club" so much as a group of people that get together, drink beer, and hang out with a bunch of chess boards. People of all skill levels play together there. A few of us are tournament players, but most of the people that come aren't.
What has become the general practice in this group is that when someone makes a serious tactical error and the other player sees it right away, they'll say something like "I don't really think you can make that move," and instead of letting the losing side continue on for 20 moves in a game they don't realize is completely hopeless (something I've seen happen countless times in casual games), the weaker player gets a tactical exercise and a small lesson, and both players get a better game.
Wow! Three very interesting posts above!
Our Chess Club is casual too. There's one guy who I want to offer advice to, but the last time I tried, he shrugged it off and didn't want to listen to the whole thing. I wasn't offended because we're all their at our own free will. But it'd be nice to see some motivation to improve and not make the same mistakes repeatedly (insanity, is it called?). So I liked reading about the small chess lessons you offer in your club. Very encouraging to read!
To be honest, I learned chess at the beginning of this year with a couple guys who are now members of this club and quickly became hoooked. When we started, they would give me the treatment I described, and sometimes I just couldn't see why the move I made was bad. They would implore me to take it back, but sometimes I felt it was just as instructive to me to play the game out and see exactly why my move just didn't work.
So, I completely understand when weaker/beginning chess players want to stand by their moves. Sometimes you really have to see the idea played out to get why it's bad, even when it seems completely obvious to someone who has been around the game for a while.
I remember playing with my friend who is ~1800 uscf when I was just starting to become a serious chess player, and I would make moves that I thought looked really good (or at least very playable), and he would tell me they were "terrible." In my mind, I thought a move had to lose material immediately for it to be terrible; I had absolutely no grasp of common positional concepts. It took me a long time to come to grips with the fact that chess was more than just the tactics that became apparent after only a couple moves.
I'm currently watching the World Series game going on right now and one of the commentators was comparing the baseball coaches to chess masters, saying "And now the chess masters are trying to move their chess pieces to the center of the chess board." That's probably the most ridiculous quote from non-chessers I've ever heard.
Dios mio.
akafett wrote:
@ Dragon: Rematch at 11 EST tonight?
Who won the previous game?
I did. It was a good game, I thought. I look forward to the rematch.
T-27, am I correct? Based on your earlier comment.
@ Camber: What???
27 minutes until <insert event here>
akafett wrote:
I did. It was a good game, I thought. I look forward to the rematch.
Good for you! I'm sure she put up a worthy fight although!
camberfoil wrote:
27 minutes until <insert event here>
Oh, yes. I though you were talking about some kind of weird time control I'm not familiar with. (as time controls are new to me)
@ Winer: I think she played a good game. She may beat me the second round.
Oct 24, 2014
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akafett wrote:
@ Dragon: Rematch at 11 EST tonight?
I just read this now sweetheart. Sorry! 
Oct 24, 2014
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awesomechess1729 wrote:
I'm currently watching the World Series game going on right now and one of the commentators was comparing the baseball coaches to chess masters, saying "And now the chess masters are trying to move their chess pieces to the center of the chess board." That's probably the most ridiculous quote from non-chessers I've ever heard.
Our strongest chess player at chess club would probably appreciate that (odd) comparison. He's a baseball fan. lol.
Oct 24, 2014
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chessplayer31415926 wrote:
but wrote:
awesomechess1729 wrote:
dragonair234 wrote:
awesomechess1729 wrote:
dragonair234 wrote:
but wrote:
I don't know. I don't study openings. I'm about to go make a table of contents for the 4000+posts we have on this forum. So if anyone wants to find anything, it'll be here. That's going to take a while though...
That would be intriguing. Chess.com should give you a trophy for that.
It would be interesting (but hard) to create a directory for all of the content on all of the forums. Even though there is already a grouping of categories for threads, a more detailed directory would group individual posts as well as individual threads.
That's ummm "but's" job. He already claimed it! xD
I meant all of the content on the chess.com forums instead of just this thread.
Yes, that'll be a pain to do. I'm going to stick to this thread for now. :P
And it will be confusing for non-chessers wanting to become chessers
This thread is prepared for "them" because we have a chess player here to explain everything – YOU! :D
Non-Chess Wife: 'Dear, could you go out and rake the leaves? All the neighbors have their yards raked.'
Chesser Husband: 'But, Honey, I'm working through this Spassky game with the Trompowsky.'
N.C. Wife: 'Here's the rake . . . LEAVE game, rake LEAVES!!!'
C. Husband: 'Awwww . . .'
Wife: 'Now, or I'll cut off your Spassky and throw it out with whatever that other thing was you said!'
"What is en passant? You're making that up, cheater."
Oct 25, 2014
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staggerlee wrote:
"What is en passant? You're making that up, cheater."
Whenever I play a relatively new chess player, I don't use en passant, unless it would be really essential in my game. If they really want to learn how to play chess then of course I'm more than happy to teach them. But I weigh the benefit of teaching them en passant mid-game. Let's be real... you can't go over all the rules of chess for every new chess player you play!
dragonair234 wrote:
staggerlee wrote:
"What is en passant? You're making that up, cheater."
Whenever I play a relatively new chess player, I don't use en passant, unless it would be really essential in my game. If they really want to learn how to play chess then of course I'm more than happy to teach them. But I weigh the benefit of teaching them en passant mid-game. Let's be real... you can't go over all the rules of chess for every new chess player you play!
Yeah, I've done that too. THought to myself, "Well shoot, if I take his pawn en passant, then we'll have to get into a big explanation and he may or not be suspicious, could be a hassle, ah heck I'll just do a different move."
So newbs as opposed to n00bs/noobs?