Smurfing is a legal thing here but why?

The point is to:
Be clear and honest in giving your rating, prior to beginning the match.

Is this too much to ask?

Playing with fake elo against hopless noobs is not unfair?

Yes i said force them to play ranked after 1000 win in a certain elo.
Is it UNFAIR? Why? they can win 100% why is that unfair? just go and find out what is your true elo? Whats the wrong with that?

Some people enjoy playing unrated; they just want to play for fun and not worry about rating. You can't force them at a certain elo to only play rated. 

Yeah but what they do is unfair against the players on that elo. 
as i sadi "Be clear and honest in giving your rating, prior to beginning the match." is it too much to ask?

But you misunderstand unrated.
Unrated is not about playing against somebody, anybody with any rateing.

Unrated has an elo min-max too. 
And you can abort a game if you dont want to play against better player
But if somebody is not showing their true elo. You dont know how to play against him.

To play fair game you need to know your opponent's rateing.
You cant play the same game against a 400 and a 2000 elo player.

Why?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugK2nqeUKP0

Against an elo 400 you can do Scholar's Mate or gambits 
Against an elo 2000 you need solid opening with theory and really good middle and endgame

If you cant tell what is your opponent elo thats not fair play

you walk into a chess playing hall and you want to play against someone in a friendly match. You don't know their real ratings. Guess I'll die 

You never should assume when playing someone, even when knowing the rating. I would never play towards Scholar's Mate, regardless of the player's rating. Always try to play the best moves you can and for the position.

When I play tournaments, I ignore ratings and just play chess.

online chess is not a bar or a park in new york or a bar.

I know of that incident. The living legend that is Ben Finegold mentioned it in some video I watched once I think. Kasparov is completely right to want those games removed from official results. I personally think Kasparov is an idiot. In fact, this is a great example of a typical childish overreaction from him. His point is completely right, but acting like that is just pathetic.

Anyway, him wanting to spend longer on none time control restricted games against a high rated player makes perfect sense. You thinking that in a game with a set time control, a person should play intentionally badly to win fast when playing a low rated opponent but play sound chess against a high rated opponent, does not.

Those situations are not the same.

I leave the thread because some friends have confirmed to me that the third social category really behave in this way. I remember one that lost 773 points in just one tournament .. good continuation.

I would suggest playing rated games. Smurfing/sandbagging in rated games and/or tournaments isn't allowed. I used to play a lot of unrated games, but I realized that I really shouldn't: what matters is skill, not elo. Your elo might fluctuate a lot, but your skill will only go up. It's not like losing some rating points is permanent.

Chess is for fun. It doesn't matter what rating someone has, because that is just for fun too. Please remember that this is all just for fun.

oops I thought you were referring to sandbagging

yeah I think smurfing is completely legal

I totally forgot the meaning of smurfing for a second. No, smurfing is not allowed either because you are not allowed to open multiple accounts.

https://support.chess.com/article/596-can-i-have-multiple-accounts