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Some Notes on Morphy and Steinitz

This is all really good stuff. It would not be so easy to find such accounts but for the efforts of Batgirl!

It's a strange insight into the 19th century.

Very interesting, indeed!
But, I ask this question. It may appear impertinent, but I ask it anyway. And, let me say, that of all your admirers, I have too many rivals better at Chess that I am as I love Chess far better than I play it, but few rivals in respecting your great contributions to Chess and its history.
What you publish seems to contradict most of the idea I have of Steinitz. Perhaps Steinitz as a very misunderstood character, as he is seen by many as devious, unkind and perhaps a little conceited.
However, there is no doubt that most critics, even the biased, give paternity rights to him as the father of modern Chess.
Two figures who figure in history after Steinitz after are Tarrasch and Nimzovich, who did not have a friendly relationship.
I suspect that, in fact, the basically were in agreement, but quibbled on the finer points.
Tarrasch tried to make the theories of Steinitz popular, and make them understandable by the average player. Nimzovich would not compromise, as he wished to give out meat rather than milk, a policy which will kill babies, but make men strong.
Am I more or less correct on what I have said? If so, I am only to pleased to have my thoughts disagreed with, as in the end we are all seeking the truth, are we not?
I hope I have at least laid the ground for a worthwhile discussion.
Thanks again to the uniquely gifted, clear and hardworking batgirl!

I think these articles beg the question of strength between these two giants. It seems more than likely that Steinitz sought these answers himself, but felt it unfair to contest a match with an unwilling Morphy, let alone challenge him at all as he remained out of Caissa's grasp. This could have been the most interesting match ever if both players were willing. They each beat Anderssen less than a decade apart and held on to streaks of match wins themselves. A match between these champions would have produced some fine games indeed, with psychological duels, early positional jockeying, beautiful sacrifices, insane opening attempts and plenty of crazy king moves! Is it so wrong to dream of such things?
... From 'The Week' chess column (edited by Charles Phillips) March 19th, 1885.
STEINITZ ON MORPHY
The leading feature of the 'International Chess Magazine' for January, February and
March, is Herr Steinitz's critique of Paul Morphy. ...
I believe that is included in the Shibut book about Morphy.

No, this tread was definitely not created to compare Morphy to Steinitz or for any other adolescent reasons. The purpose was simply to show contemporary views from the chess world. Whether these views were fair, biased or just there to sell papers, I can't say. Steinitz had his views on his predecessor and others had their views on Steinitz - both champions were complex men the evaluation of whom can't be summed up in a few words or created though any superficial or casual understanding. At any rate seeing what chess masters of the times were saying may or may not affect one's own perspective, but I find reading them always gives me pause for thought.
I created an accompanying thread, https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/chigorin-speaks-out , giving Tschigorin's thoughts on Steinitz and Tarrasch, for much the same reasons.
I was going through my notes in search of other things and found some items I thought worth sharing.
Steintiz interviewed by the N.Y. Tribune about his meeting with Morphy:
CHESS CHAMPION ON AN EX-CHAMPION
Mr. Steinitz's Experience with Morphy - Changes in the Game - Great Players
"Mr. Steinitz," said a TRIBUNE reporter to the chess champion recently, "it has been stated that you sought an interview with Morphy under the pretence of being a lawyer interested in his legal troubles. Is that so?"
"Certainly not," was the answer; "that would have defeated the very object I had in seeing him. Morphy is a pretty shrewd man, and would soon have detected the imposition. The truth is I have been interesting myself lately in international law, with the intention in the near future of writing a short treatise on it. When in New-Orleans a few weeks ago, knowing that Morphy was a lawyer, I wrote to him. On getting no answer, the first time I met him in the street, I stopped him and presented him with my card. He took it and read it, giving me a wild, questioning look for the moment. Immediately recovering himself he shook hands with me, saying that my name was well known to him and then he entered into conversation with me. Twice after that I met him, and on each occasion he was exceedingly pleasant and agreeable.
As a crowd collected round us on each occasion, he excused himself on the score of pressing legal engagements. I am very angry with that crowd still for interrupting us; Morphy is a most interesting man to talk to. He is shrewd and practical and apparently in excellent health. I am convinced that his derangement is purely local and quite curable if he would place himself under medical treatment. If his derangement were general, his bodily health would suffer and he would knew [sic] that he was ill. At present he does not know it. His misfortune was to be born too rich. When he lost his money he could not stand it, and he now has the idea that there is conspiracy against him to keep him penniless. I took the opportunity of remonstrating with him. And told him he had a number of legal friends; if he would allow them they would thoroughly investigate his business matters, and if he had a chance to recover his property, would tell him so. 'Though, 'I added, 'even Morphy may be mistaken, and you may not have taken a correct legal view.' 'That is it,' he answered; 'people think I am nothing but a chess-player, and that I know nothing about law.'"
"Will Morphy ever play chess again, Mr. Steinitz?"
"Probably, if his friends go to work in the right way. At present he will not look at a board and never visits his club, under the apprehension that they will make him play. I myself know what his feeling is. In 1867 I suffered from a sunstroke. For weeks I could not concentrate my energies on anything, least of all on a concrete science like chess. At last I determined to do it, believing the effort would cure the affliction. It was torture at first, but it succeeded. The concentration required took the mind off itself. Now Morphy, when he sits down to a board, finds he cannot concentrate himself. Then for the first time he feels that there is something wrong with him; rather than confess it, he gets up abruptly, alleges an engagement, and rushes away. What I said to the men at New-Orleans was: 'Do not ask Morphy to play; let him sit and watch you play, perhaps one of his own old games. Presently he too will take to the board again, and the effort required will take his mind off his trouble.'"
"Why does the loss of his money affect him so much?"
"That is another curious thing. Morphy wants to get married. He is perpetually having love affairs. All the people in New-Orleans know it and humor him a little. Mind you, he is the most chivalrous soul alive. He is a thorough gentleman. But if he sees a strange face in the street that pleases him, you will see him lift his hat and give a bow. Sometimes the lady will stop kindly and speak to him or smile and pass on. Then he will follow her at a distance - sometimes for hours - and when she enters her house, take out his note-book and enter the address. He regrets his loss because he wishes to be married, and the cure is, I think, the same as in my own case - to play chess again determinedly."
"How would Morphy compare with the players of the present day?"
"Well, the game has made immense strides since his time. For one first-class player then, there are twenty now, and the science has developed. Morphy would have to alter his style to suit the new conditions. For instance, Morphy considered the king as an object merely of attack and defence, while the modern view is that it is itself a strong piece, to be used throughout the game. You see how frequently I will move my king all over the board to capture a pawn. In the old days that was never done. It sometimes loses me a game on account of the extraordinary foresight required. That is, in a match game it may do so, but in a game by correspondence never."
"Then a game by correspondence is the fairest test of skill?"
"Yes; and a match game is fairer than a tournament. In a tournament 'draws' are allowed to count. That is wrong, for a good player is immediately handicapped if his opponent determines to play for a draw. Another objection to tournaments is that the time is too limited, necessarily; the series between any two players cannot be long enough to constitute a true test."
"Whom do you consider the strongest players living?"
"Well, that is a matter more or less of private judgment. I should say that Zukertort, Martinez and Mackenzie are as strong as there are. Mason, too, might be mentioned. As for Mackenzie, I believe he is a genius. I have only one fault to find - he will not study the modern game. In fact, he has always been so successful, and so easily successful, that he has not found it necessary, and, to my grief, persists in the old Morphy game."
"Who gave you the hardest fight that you have ever had?"
"Anderssen in 1866 in London. That was the first of my victories, and, I think, the hardest."
"Are you a stronger player now than you were then?"
"No, I think that I was playing a stronger game in 1872 and 1873 than now. My chess career began in 1862 in London. On that occasion I was the last on the list. Four years later I succeeded in defeating Andersen, who had been first in 1862. In 1867 I had the sunstroke I spoke of, and did not play again in a tournament until in the one held in London in 1872, when I came out first. Next year I played in a tournament in Vienna and was again first. From 1872 till 1874 I had control of the match by correspondence between London and Vienna which lasted twenty months. In 1877 I had a relapse due to the sunstroke of 1867, and I have not recovered completely yet. Still in the second Vienna tournament of 1878 I managed to come out just equal, though not feeling well. Now I feel that I am getting stronger gradually and clearer, and soon hope to get completely over my illness. I wish Morphy would try to cure himself in the same way that I did. But it won't do for me to talk any more of myself." added the champion with a laugh. "I will leave it for my friends. No: I have never lost a match game yet."
Mr. Steinitz has gone to Havana. He will return in about two weeks to sail for Europe. He stated that he would not be likely to play again in New York.
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From 'The Week' chess column (edited by Charles Phillips) March 19th, 1885.
The leading feature of the ‘International Chess Magazine’ for January, February and March, is Herr Steinitz’s critique of Paul Morphy. Both his premises and conclusions have been furiously assailed by the leading chess writers in the United States. They appear to have enshrined Morphy as the God of Chess, and to resent with the bigotry of idolaters the slightest approach to skepticism on the part of those who reject their creed. However much we may doubt his discretion there can be no question of Mr. Steinitz’s courage. A stranger in America, his chief object to firmly establish his new literary venture, he dares to assail at the outset of his American career the pet dogma of the very people on whom he must depend for the support necessary to the success of his undertaking. The question in dispute is simply this: Americans everywhere declare that Morphy, the peerless chess player of twenty-five years ago, was the superior, not only of the best men of his time, but also of the doughty champions of to-day. Steinitz begs leave to doubt this. Hence the storm. For ourselves we cannot but think that those who so firmly believe in the genius of their late champion would choose a more dignified course if they confuted Herr Steinitz’s arguments instead of abusing himself. However, we believe firmly that Paul Morphy would have defeated just as easily Messrs. Zukertort, Steinitz and Co., as he did their teachers. One point relied by Steinitz is the fact that there were a number of errors of judgment or analysis in many of Morphy’s games. Now, while this if proved (and we think it has been) would demonstrate Morphy was not infallible, it by no means demonstrates that Morphy was inferior to the men of to-day. First, he may have made less mistakes proportionately than they, and secondly, his play on the whole may have been so superior to theirs as to more than counterbalance the errors. The records of modern match and tournament play abundantly testify that both these suppositions are correct. Another point made by the editor is that Morphy did not have to play under the modern time limit, and therefore was not hampered by this restriction. Surely Steinitz cannot but be aware that the time by Morphy in his matches was accurately recorded, and that he averaged between twenty and thirty moves per hour. A vote of thanks should be tendered to Herr Steinitz (instead of abuse) by those who believe in Morphy’s superiority. A careful perusal of the article in connection with the records in question will thoroughly convince any impartial reader that so far from making out a case, the writer has unwittingly but added another monument to the genius and unrivalled power of the late lamented master.
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This next interview was uncovered and translated by Tim Krabbé.
Steinitz was on tour in Holland in May, 1896 and spoke with J. Moquette for "Tijdschrift Nederlandse Schaakbond"
In 1883, a year before Morphy's death, Steinitz had had his famous meeting with him in New Orleans, to which Morphy had only agreed on the condition that chess would not be mentioned.
Steinitz:
"At that time he had been, for a long time already, in a condition in which I could only feel the deepest pity for him. It is a very sorry sight to see before you a man so totally broken who, when he was in the possession of all his powers, appeared like a sparkling star in the chess heaven. People have often been so foolish as to compare Morphy to me. But how would that be possible? Morphy plays just a year and beats everything that dares to come in his path, he returns to his fatherland covered in laurels, and after
that, nothing is heard from him again.
"The fact that at such a young age, Morphy rose to such great heights, is unique in the whole history of chess. But it cannot be denied that he has not enriched theory in any way. He did not know the famous Suhlen Variation in the Evans Gambit, and he was not able to find it himself; otherwise he would have used it against Anderssen. Look, nobody can deny that Morphy's trumpet has been blown a little too much; his youth, his friendly behaviour,his gentleman-like comportment, all of this simply had to impress people,
and it has prejudiced certain authors. Morphy's great strength was his memory and his imagination. I have been told that he remembered all the games that he had ever played. When he came to Europe, he played eight games blindfold simultaneously, and the public thought it saw something superhuman. Never had anything over four or five of such simultaneous games been witnessed, and now eight! All the papers wrote about it, and now? If you don't play twelve blindfold games, not even the chess columns will mention it.
"Morphy was a great and accurate expert in the endgame, but he did not always play the openings correctly. He also studied his opponent's games like no one else. In almost all of his great matches he loses the first and sometimes also the second game, but then? It is as if he first wants to study his opponent's play before playing with his full force. A nice example is the following. He had arrived in London and first played Barnes. Of the first eight games, each won four. It seemed the young American was not better
than the English masters at all, but then suddenly, full of confidence, he said to Löwenthal: ‘I know this man and I will beat him.’ And out of the next nine games, he won seven."
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from "Reminiscences of Morphy" by Charles A. de Maurian, published in the "Chess Player's Chronicle" on Aug. 20, 1884 (thanks to WilhelmThe2nd (Chessgames.com moniker):
His actual retirement from all serious play may be said to date from 1860 at least- many long years before the melancholy mental affliction that clouded and darkened his later days fell upon him. And it is but just to the noble game whose history and whose lore he so enriched and adorned during his brief career as a player, to say here that it was in no wise responsible for the disaster that befell its afflicted monarch. Sorrows, misfortunes and trials of other character, and such as might have destroyed the balance in a far less delicate organization than his, were the potent agents that wrought the ruin of which Caissa is so generally and so unjustly accused. The frailty of his physique was evident at a glance and the very manner of his death demonstrated it more clearly. A cold bath on a summer's day brought on a congestion of the brain that proved almost immediately fatal.
And here, before we close, speaking as knowing whereof we speak, we deem it best to correct two generally received impressions as to the departed master. First, then, Paul Morphy was never so passionately fond, so inordinately devoted to Chess as is generally believed. An intimate acquaintance and long observation enable us to state this positively. His only devotion to the game, if it may be so termed, lay in his ambition to meet and to defeat the best players and great masters of this country and of Europe. He felt his enormous strength, and never, for a moment, doubted the outcome.
Indeed, before his first departure for Europe he privately and modestly, yet with perfect confidence, predicted to us his certain success, and when he returned he expressed the conviction that he had played poorly, rashly ; that none of his opponents should have done so well as they did against him. But, this one ambition satisfied, he appeared to have lost nearly all interest in the game. He kept in some degree, the run of its general news, even up to the date of Mr. Steinitz's visit to this city last year, but he could rarely be induced to discuss chess, and nothing more annoyed him, even years ago, than to be designated as "Morphy, the chess player."
In the second place, Morphy was a thoroughly educated and cultivated man, and there is not the shadow of a doubt that but for the misfortunes of his times, and the melancholy affliction of his later years, he would have been capable of great results in lofty spheres of human action. There is no graver error than to suppose he was capable of nothing but playing chess. He was, moreover, in every sense, a gentleman of high delicacy, culture and refinement, both innate and acquired; and even clouded as his mind was in the latter years of his life, these qualities were marked. There was much of the true Hidalgo about him.
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from the "Fortnightly Review," Nov. 1886
by Leopold Hoffer
Wherever he [Steinitz] goes he is the cause of dissension. In Paris in 1867 he protested; in Baden-Baden in 1870 he protested; in Vienna in 1873 he protested; in London in 1883 he protested. He has the faculty in common with some other great men of persuading himself that he honestly helieves the theories he advances, and he will fight for them with a tenacity worthy of a better cause.
The happiness of the Bohemian Caesar, as Steinitz fondly calls himself, however, is not unalloyed. Paul Morphy is his bête noir. He has even attempted to undermine the pedestal upon which Morphy's glory is everlastingly established. But he has not succeeded. If Blackburne makes a brilliant combination, he calls it a" bit of Morphy." I have never heard anybody call a brilliant finish a bit of Steinitz. "When Anderssen years ago was asked his opinion about Kolisch and Steinitz, he said, "Kolisch is a highwayman and points the pistol at your breast. Steinitz is a pickpocket, he steals a pawn and wins the game with it." And Anderssen was no mean judge.
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from "The Forum," June 1904
International Chess Tournaments
by Emil Kemeny
As might have been anticipated, these detracting articles led to controversies which sometimes became unnecessarily sharp, while, of course, they did not decide the question one way or the other. Naturally, these discussions did not tend to make Steinitz more popular, although they may have benefited the cause of chess; for players became interested, and once more examined Morphy's games, comparing them with the methods of Steinitz. At that time, the question of superiority lay between Morphy and Steinitz. Since then, it has successively been Morphy vs. Pillsbury, and Morphy vs. Lasker. Whenever an exceptional success is achieved, whenever a brilliant star appears on the horizon of chess, comparison with Morphy is sure to follow. Inasmuch as even persons not familiar with the game have manifested interest in this matter, it may not be out of place to cite the opinions of a few competent judges relative to the point at issue.
Mr. James McConnell, of New Orleans, already a distinguished amateur at the time of Morphy, has had the privilege of contesting games with the latter, and also with practically all the leading players that have since appeared. Mr. McConnell unhesitatingly asserts that Morphy's play impressed him more than that of any other master. The same opinion is expressed by Arnous de Riviere, of Paris, who likewise met Morphy and his most distinguished successors. Among the other prominent adherents of the great American is the Russian champion Tschigorin. There are, however, many experts, as well as amateurs, who believe that Steinitz was correct.