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Justs99171
GnrfFrtzl wrote:
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The point of ratings is to judge people. I suppose your rating indicates your intelligence is too low to comprehend pairing numbers and wall charts. Hopefully you have a good friend that can lead you to your seat and tell you what color to play.

No. The point of ratings is to judge playing strength.
Playing a board game better than X amount of people doesn't make you a better person whatsoever nor gives you the right to call them names or insult them.

The point of judging strength is to rank people and pair them in a tournament.

Mr. Elo was an American and most tournaments in the United States are Swiss style tournaments. In a Swiss tourament, you assign pairing number. After you have assigned everyone a pairing number, you divide them into two groups based on the sequence of pairing numbers. Then you pair the top of the top half with the top of the bottom half, the 2nd highest of the top half with the 2nd highest of the bottom half, etc.. Here is an example:

With four players: 1,2,3,4 you have two groups 1,2, and 3,4. you pair 1 with 3 and 2 with 4.

You need a rating system to do this.

Let's say here are the ratings of these players respectively 1,2,3,4 - 2000, 1800, 1600, 1400 ...

So with more players, you just follow the same pattern.

According to wikipedia, which isn't always a good source, elo ratings were implemented in the United States in 1960. I am not sure if most were Swiss style tournaments at the time or not, but that isn't significant. Many higher level tournaments were by invitation or someone had to qualify and you qualified by basically by rating. Either by doing well in a tournament with high rated players or by winning tournaments, or having a high rating.

So more specifically elo ratings might be to judge playing strength but judging playing strength is still judging.

blastforme

I very highly doubt that people at our level are using engines to decide their moves - They would have higher ratings if they did. But I can't fathom why someone would waste time on chess.com using an engine to artificially boost their chess.com rating.. lol.. I'm sure there is a very, very small number of weirdos who actually do that, but again they would have ratings higher than 1000.

Justs - You are maybe a bit naive, but that's ok - you're young (I think  - you seem so anyway..). A good chess rating is something you can be proud of, but this has been discussed here,  and more interestingly, researched by psycologists quite a lot- chess ratings/ability, even those of grandmasters is not correlated to Intelligence/"IQ" levels. I.e.: Chess grandmasters, on average, don't have higher than average IQ, and people with high IQ are not all good at chess.

GnrfFrtzl
Justs99171 írta:
GnrfFrtzl wrote:
Justs99171 írta:

The point of ratings is to judge people. I suppose your rating indicates your intelligence is too low to comprehend pairing numbers and wall charts. Hopefully you have a good friend that can lead you to your seat and tell you what color to play.

No. The point of ratings is to judge playing strength.
Playing a board game better than X amount of people doesn't make you a better person whatsoever nor gives you the right to call them names or insult them.

The point of judging strength is to rank people and pair them in a tournament.

[...]

So more specifically elo ratings might be to judge playing strength but judging playing strength is still judging.

That still doesn't give you any right to be a disrespectful arrogant arse to anyone.
Have some respect. Treat as you want to be treated.
It's just common courtesy.

Justs99171
GnrfFrtzl wrote:
Justs99171 írta:
GnrfFrtzl wrote:
Justs99171 írta:

The point of ratings is to judge people. I suppose your rating indicates your intelligence is too low to comprehend pairing numbers and wall charts. Hopefully you have a good friend that can lead you to your seat and tell you what color to play.

No. The point of ratings is to judge playing strength.
Playing a board game better than X amount of people doesn't make you a better person whatsoever nor gives you the right to call them names or insult them.

The point of judging strength is to rank people and pair them in a tournament.

[...]

So more specifically elo ratings might be to judge playing strength but judging playing strength is still judging.

That still doesn't give you any right to be a disrespectful arrogant arse to anyone.
Have some respect. Treat as you want to be treated.
It's just common courtesy.

I have every right to entertan my self at the expense of 1000 rated chess players. You should stop discriminating against arrogant and disprespectful players just because of their higher rating. If you don't like it, go insult someone with a two digit rating.

GnrfFrtzl
Justs99171 írta:
GnrfFrtzl wrote:
Justs99171 írta:
GnrfFrtzl wrote:
Justs99171 írta:

The point of ratings is to judge people. I suppose your rating indicates your intelligence is too low to comprehend pairing numbers and wall charts. Hopefully you have a good friend that can lead you to your seat and tell you what color to play.

No. The point of ratings is to judge playing strength.
Playing a board game better than X amount of people doesn't make you a better person whatsoever nor gives you the right to call them names or insult them.

The point of judging strength is to rank people and pair them in a tournament.

[...]

So more specifically elo ratings might be to judge playing strength but judging playing strength is still judging.

That still doesn't give you any right to be a disrespectful arrogant arse to anyone.
Have some respect. Treat as you want to be treated.
It's just common courtesy.

I have every right to entertan my self at the expense of 1000 rated chess players. You should stop discriminating against arrogant and disprespectful players just because of their higher rating. If you don't like it, go insult someone with a two digit rating.

I know it'll be shocking, but I really don't care about rating points.
I don't care about yours, either.
If you were a complete amateur, or even a titled player, I'd say the same thing.
Because I find it disgusting and irritating when anyone behaves like this.
So what if you're a better chess player than them or me?
You can beat people in a board game? Oh, well.

wubberz

Justs why don't you read what blastforme just wrote

Justs99171

ok I am finished arguing with all of you pathetic weakling little dumb dumbs.

wubberz

Sometimes it saves face to resign when you know you have lost

pilotk9

Wtf yah guys even arguing about? In confused

We know what Elo is

Are we arguing about if people with high ratings should be treated differently??

Hell no

We're all people and as said this is just a board game...

Unless you act like alive I don't care how yah play... Alive is te only one who needs to prove himself and should be treated accorsingly

MuhammadAreez10

Thank God! Justs is quiet at last

Troll4ever22
Justs99171 wrote:

ok I am finished arguing with all of you pathetic weakling little dumb dumbs.

No! Wait! Come back!

I still have loads of asinine comments and dumb jokes left!

Justs99171

Sorry I had to sleep and work. I will come back and waste all of my spare insulting you guys when I have spare time.

Troll4ever22
Justs99171 wrote:

Sorry I had to sleep and work. I will come back and waste all of my spare insulting you guys when I have spare time.

You better. 

Who prioritizes the banal realm of work and sleep over the rich tapestry that is internet forums and chat rooms?

 Real life achievements and goals are overrated and futile.

The cold, lifeless glow of the computer screen is all I need thank you very much.


doppelgangsterII
Justs99171 wrote:

Sorry I had to sleep and work. I will come back and waste all of my spare insulting you guys when I have spare time.

If I was a cook (McDonald's burger flipper?) and lived in Texas I'd be inclined to spend my wretched life insulting people on the internet too.

I offer you all the pity I can muster for someone in your situation.    Good for you that you feel chess provides a way to get back at the world for the nasty hand you were dealt.

How you answer some questions might give us a better fix on what makes you tick.  Are you bitter because of what happened to Lance?  Does thinking about the impact George had on the US make you proud he was your president?   Do you eagerly await Rick Perry's next attempt to climb to the highest rung?   (Last time he broke a tooth on the lowest rung.)

Pulpofeira

Well, they had Sandy Cheeks there too!