Stalemate Sucks.

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Yorkshire-Grit wrote:

it is very strange, i can not think of any other game where your opponent can get a draw because he would have to fowl to carry on, ie fowl = illegal =  he can not move = i can move = i win haha

illegal fowls

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Avatar of hanweihehai

you can't say that, it's just rule

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Stalemate sucks? Well capture the king sucks even more. 

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ScatteredWealth wrote:

Stalemate sucks? Well capture the king sucks even more. 

Who actually plays Capture The King nowadays?

I would like to know, so that I can play a game.

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Scottrf wrote:

Who plays chess untimed?

lol a thread wasted on someone who has 24 hours to work out how to beat stalemate. this is a textbook forum dabate all day long. 

I just lost my queen after 4 moves. I then stalemated his king with a new queen , bishop and king after playing amazingly. guess what,, i get a draw. 

ridiculous rule for modern chess. ( by modern i mean timed at less then 10 mins. 

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Without stalemate, chess would be a LOT less interesting.  Why?  Because K+P vs K would be a win rather than a draw, and therefore a simple one pawn advantage nurtured to the endgame would be all it takes to win.  Gambits would therefore be more dubious, and play would become more sterile.  Be glad for stalemate - without it, games would be less exciting and the game would die of boredom.

Avatar of Knight_king1014

Yet another one of these threads...

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stale mate shoudl be banned from timed chess. i just drew , knowing i might stalemate,,,,,and i was terrible . 

Avatar of BoardMonkey

I recently played Stockfish 15 set on its lowest setting. The game was going very well for me. I was a knight ahead. Then Stockfish announced a draw by stalemate. It felt worse than losing. I expect to lose. I don't  expect a stalemate.

Avatar of MoveNotToMove

It's a fantastic rule. I love it.

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Knights_of_Doom wrote:

Without stalemate, chess would be a LOT less interesting.  Why?  Because K+P vs K would be a win rather than a draw, and therefore a simple one pawn advantage nurtured to the endgame would be all it takes to win.  Gambits would therefore be more dubious, and play would become more sterile.  Be glad for stalemate - without it, games would be less exciting and the game would die of boredom.

Well said.

Avatar of MLGgetslappedbruh

It's just yet another complex tactic that can be utilised in the endgame, what a beautiful game

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hanweihehai wrote:

you can't say that, it's just rule

Let's all just appreciate this comment for a bit. What a worthy way to resurrect this thread that was dead for more than 6 years.

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If I stalemate my opponent, it's a bad rule, though if I get stalemated, it's a good rule.

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I don´t know why somebody has problems with stalemate. I´ve none. I know it and try to avoid it, that´s it.

But, something to think for this always complaining people: Would you ever write your comments here (Stalemate sucks....) if you had a nearly lost position and could get a draw via stalemate? No, you would not! You would be happy! But if the opponent get´s a draw because of stalemate, then you complain. That sucks.

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PURLIC wrote:

It is a stupid rule. Why? Because it is created only to make the game trickier, completely destroying the basic narrative of "board game."

Every sport has these kind of tricky rules. In basketball, you can't just hold the ball and run along the court. In snooker, you can't just pick up the ball and slam it into the pocket. People who start complaining about these basic rules are just laughed at. No one will take these complaints seriously. Here it's the same. You just stalemated your opponent in a recent game? (Yes, you did.) Well, it's a lesson. Next time try to pay more attention.

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"having manouverd your foe into a position where he is unable to make a move"

What you don't realize is that you have maneuvered yourself out of a win and into a draw! Well done!

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PURLIC wrote:

I know it is a rule. but again, it is a stupid rule. And no one has any plausible explanation that properly justifies the nature of the rule other than saying "It is a rule."

Of course this is not true. It is a very good rule that adds a lot of depth to all endgames. Chess would be more bland without it. Chess history is full of great stalemate escapes, stalemate traps (set and avoided). It's a good rule.

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Next thing you know someone is going to write a forum about how losing sucks and it should be removed from the game….
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Yes it does.

1. It makes the game end
2. It makes you think before you move
3. If you got rid of it you’d either have games go on forever or you’d have to get rid of legal moves, which would also get rid of checkmate
4. If your in a losing position and stale mate it’s nice
5. It makes games more interesting with more risk