suggested rule to replace draw offers

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patzermike

Hi all. I have a strange idea for chess tournament rules that I have never seen discussed before. Why is it only possible to offer you opponent 1 full point by resigning or .5 points by offering a draw. Why not have a rule that player A can propose to his opponent player B "I offer you .3 points"? If B accepts then he gets .3 points and A gets the remaining .7 points. Logically speaking if the players can share the point half and half by agreement, why shouldn't they be able to share the point however they wish. Good idea or awful idea?

kleelof

Anal chess player idea.

UlyssesTheMessanger

That's terrible, if I was gonna split .7 for me and .3 for my opponent, it'd mean I had an advantage, meaning I'd play to win

kleelof
UlyssesTheMessanger wrote:

That's terrible, if I was gonna split .7 for me and .3 for my opponent, it'd mean I had an advantage, meaning I'd play to win

+1

ChessMaster960
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TitanCG

There would be no incentive to do such a thing unless someone wanted to rig a tournament for a certain player to win. It would defeat the purpose of playing the game really.

kleelof
UlyssesTheMessanger wrote:

That's terrible, if I was gonna split .7 for me and .3 for my opponent, it'd mean I had an advantage, meaning I'd play to win

I think if someone offered me .3, I'd say FU and keep playing. Better to accept 0 points than an insult like that.

EDB123

it is an dds matter. for instance instead of risking the loss, we simply give a draw based on odds so that the most probable player to win wins.

pieace

with emphasis on the word "strange".  Presumably the other player could then make a counter-offer, and so on?  What about hundredths of a point? 

Perhaps the Candidates would really gain in popularity if, late in every middle game, some kind of "jerryspringeresque" bidding war could break out...

EDB123

.28, do I have .29?

pieace

Karjakin would be all like "no way man! I won't take less than 0.85!!", while the arbiters pull Kramnik off of Topalov...

EDB123

.85, do i have .9?

patzermike

To avoid endless haggling slowing down the game, a player could make only one such offer each turn after making a move. Well, I did say up front that the idea is strange. And I am not advocating that the idea is good. I just figured that since this weird idea occurred to me I might as well toss the idea out there for general consideration.

ai36 wrote:

with emphasis on the word "strange".  Presumably the other player could then make a counter-offer, and so on?  What about hundredths of a point? 

Perhaps the Candidates would really gain in popularity if, late in every middle game, some kind of "jerryspringeresque" bidding war could break out...

EDB123

.9, can i get .95, but only next turn.

kleelof

How about this idea: Every 3rd move, the players switch sides for 3 moves.

EDB123

that sounds ridiculous, go rambe somewhere else.

kleelof
tubebender wrote:
patzermike wrote:

Hi all. I have a strange idea for chess tournament rules that I have never seen discussed before. Why is it only possible to offer you opponent 1 full point by resigning or .5 points by offering a draw. Why not have a rule that player A can propose to his opponent player B "I offer you .3 points"? If B accepts then he gets .3 points and A gets the remaining .7 points. Logically speaking if the players can share the point half and half by agreement, why shouldn't they be able to share the point however they wish. Good idea or awful idea?

You`re about as laughable as one of those idiots who "invent" Chess openings! This is why cousins should not marry and have children. The incidence of retardation is very high.

Actually it is not very high at all: http://www.cousincouples.com/?page=overview

TitanCG
EDB123 wrote:

.85, do i have .9?

.91!!!!

MichaelJRosenfeld22

I don't agree... Keep it the same, just draw

patzermike

Why so rude? I am not advocating such a rule. Though it would make scoring more interesting. Don't you get tired of reading tournament scores and seeing endless draws with occasional decisive games? I like ai36's remark that the arbiters would have to separate Kramnik and Topalov. tubebender wrote:

Hi all. I have a strange idea for chess tournament rules that I have never seen discussed before. Why is it only possible to offer you opponent 1 full point by resigning or .5 points by offering a draw. Why not have a rule that player A can propose to his opponent player B "I offer you .3 points"? If B accepts then he gets .3 points and A gets the remaining .7 points. Logically speaking if the players can share the point half and half by agreement, why shouldn't they be able to share the point however they wish. Good idea or awful idea?

You`re about as laughable as one of those idiots who "invent" Chess openings! This is why cousins should not marry and have children. The incidence of retardation is very high.