Anyone on this thread making jokes about suicide should be ashamed of themselves. RJC and marcomarco, in particular.
Suicide over Chess? Why?
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Jul 17, 2015
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marcomarco13 wrote:
really Polka rythm isn't so obvious Even santana drum's player (Woodstock 1972) could'nt get it without three joints
"Don't bogart that joint my friend."
Keep it respectful, folks. I don't mind a little joking around, but I am babysitting this thread because of the intense topic.
Yup, Big Sister is watching. :P
As long as your babysitting, let me respond to kikionfire. Its a terrible tragedy that someone committed suicide for ANY reason. But do you know how many people committed suicide on the entire planet in 1 day?? You only want to shed a tear for a chess player?? Could YOU or I have helped them in ANY way? The only crime here is KNOWING that your sick, and REFUSING help. Thankfully, he didn't take anybody else out with him, like the kid who killed 4 Marines yesterday. Or how about the German Pilot 2 months ago who crashed the plane? Did you shed a tear for any of THOSE people Kiki ??
I know Jamie, its Fri, they all come out on the weekends
I care.
These are the folks in the US to call. If you aren't in the US, please consider adding a post to this thread with the contact information for your local helpline.
National Suicide Prevention Lifeline
1 (800) 273-8255
Hours: 24 hours, 7 days a week
Languages: English, Spanish
Website: www.suicidepreventionlifeline.org
Jul 17, 2015
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Lycine wrote:
ipcress12 wrote:
i guess it's a little spooky that two of the best players in theý world for their slices of time -- Fischer and Morphy -- were crippled by mental illness.
After those two, though, I can't think of any noteworthy examples. To be sure chess players fall prey to mental problems just as all people can. But the "crazy chess player" stereotype doesn't seem to have much to it.
I looked into Fischer at least and he wasn't ill at all. This idea about him is a fabrication based on his political beliefs. He was harrassed by the US right up to 2007.
This is entirely true. He was not politically correct and therefore crazy!
Jul 17, 2015
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#73
My sister-in-law committed suicide. I shed tears for her.
The only trolls I see in this thread areJamie, marco and Rjc.
Thank you Anna for trying to keep this on the subject.
Jul 17, 2015
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#74
RonaldJosephCote wrote:
As long as your babysitting, let me respond to kikionfire. Its a terrible tragedy that someone committed suicide for ANY reason. But do you know how many people committed suicide on the entire planet in 1 day?? You only want to shed a tear for a chess player?? Could YOU or I have helped them in ANY way? The only crime here is KNOWING that your sick, and REFUSING help. Thankfully, he didn't take anybody else out with him, like the kid who killed 4 Marines yesterday. Or how about the German Pilot 2 months ago who crashed the plane? Did you shed a tear for any of THOSE people Kiki ??
You would be top of my list
This is entirely true. He was not politically correct and therefore crazy!
If so, Fischer started young. From an early age his mother, friends, and teachers were concerned about his mental health.
Fischer didn't get into trouble from his political incorrectness, but from his actions -- playing for a $5,000,000 purse in a country the US government had declared out of bounds to Americans.
I am sorry to learn that DrRalph124C -- he of the marvelous username -- should fall into this camp of Fischer apologetics.
Being concerned about someone's mental health is not evidence of a mental health disorder. The fact of the matter is that there has not been a single credible diagnosis of Fischer's alleged mental health issues and those people that keep parroting the unsubstantiated assertion that he was mentally ill are content to believe either their own propaganda or other peoples propaganda. Either pony up the evidence or admit that you have none. That scurrilous infidel Frank Brady wrote an entire book on Fischer and termed it 'to the edge of madness' and provided not a single credible medical diagnosis that he (Fischer) was , 'on the edge of madness'. This of course was to bow to the demands of the publishers, the book was simply termed the spectacular rise and fall of Bobby Fischer in Europe where we don't really have a penchant for sensationalistic journalism.
I too think Bobby Fischer's "mental health" has been exaggerated.
Let's not forget that a criticism of the Soviet Union was that it detained dissidents in asylums. The "West" is much more sophisticated in its treatment of dissidents - it doesn't use physical force or imprisonment (most of the time), it uses something much stronger : the banker controlled mass media to marginalise and ridicule them.
Fischer was a free spirit.
"I can't even clearly define for myself what mental illness is and is not" REALLY?!
I just heard a guy took his life because he got triple-jumped and lost a game of checkers.
DFW
David Foster Wallace, for those who may not know, was one of the most celebrated American writers in the 90s and 2000s. He battled depression for twenty years.
He was successful beyond the dreams of most writers, he had a loving wife, two dogs, and a supportive community of fans, critics and writers. He took antidepressants and even underwent electroshock treatments for his depression.
He hung himself in 2008.