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Thanks Heinzie, glad you are not upset, got the countries wrong. I am new here, but I like all your comments, always very constructive to others, never any negatives, you are a team leader!

I would like to ask Elubas, are you from buffalo NY? If so, where Is Jim Kelly? Will the Bills ever come back. thats my team!! daaEmbarassed

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TheGrobe wrote:
JG27Pyth wrote:

Yeah this is a solve I believe (I left out the Kh1 line cuz it's obvious)  Bxh2+ Kf2 Qh4+ (Ng3 Bxg3+ mate to follow) g3 Bxg3+ Nxg3 Qh2# -- but OTB I would have played Ng4 and screwed myself. LOL. 


I think the Ng3 Bxg3 line gives white quite a bit of rope.


Not sure what you mean by "rope" -- It's a clear win, true calling it "mate to follow" isn't quite right, but it wins Q for B --  it's completely winning.

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It's winning, but not won.  The line you showed was not the optimal line for white, and the one that is was simply dismissed as "mate to follow".

The "rope" to which I was referring is all of the play white has before that mate follows.

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TheGrobe wrote:

It's winning, but not won.  The line you showed was not the optimal line for white, and the one that is was simply dismissed as "mate to follow".

The "rope" to which I was referring is all of the play white has before that mate follows.


No argument that there's a forced mate and that's better. But in my line we're up a Queen and a pawn and white has no compensation at all. White can play on if he likes, but I don't think it's unreasonable to call that position "won."