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elwood1251
Dec 5, 2009
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#61
chesscrazee wrote:
Gert-Jan wrote:

I think that chess players should feel convenient with both sides so I would say: practise both sides because you cannot always play white.
I agree with Nytik, A player wins a game because he know's and sees what he must play not because he chooses an openingsmove that has winning statistics.

100% correct

Well isn't there a reason that a particular opening has winning statistics? Doesn't that mean that white players are playing a harder opening for black to beat? Which I do believe is the point of what Teacher_1 is saying.

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ASpieboy
Dec 5, 2009
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#62
JG27Pyth wrote:

 

The return of Cheater_1 ! -- Damn he's good...if they gave troll ratings he's Kasparov: a 2800+ rated troll... he's got Eric responding to his troll posts with his first thread.  

Anyone who wants to learn how trolling is done you've come to the right thread. 

If I am spotted responding to Cheater/teaCher 1 in the future I would like to be euthanized mercifully rather than be forced live on, without dignity, in a brain-dead state. 

Please. This guy is nowhere near cheater_1. He's just an insult.

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electricpawn
Dec 5, 2009
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#63

To paraphrase George Carlin, When someone says something, usually you think "this guy seems to know what he's talking about or I'm not sure if that's true." But once in a while somone will say something, and you'll think to yourself "this guy's completely full of sh--!"

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Gert-Jan
Dec 5, 2009
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#64
elwood1251 wrote:
chesscrazee wrote:
Gert-Jan wrote:

I think that chess players should feel convenient with both sides so I would say: practise both sides because you cannot always play white.
I agree with Nytik, A player wins a game because he know's and sees what he must play not because he chooses an openingsmove that has winning statistics.

100% correct

Well isn't there a reason that a particular opening has winning statistics? Doesn't that mean that white players are playing a harder opening for black to beat? Which I do believe is the point of what Teacher_1 is saying.

 Maybe the opening with the winning statistics is an opening which is easy to learn and maybe there is less risk to make mistakes compared to oth openings. Then still you need knowledge and insight in the mistakes and moves otherwise you can not benefit from playing this opening. Im not an expert but this was my first thought.

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Ziryab
Dec 5, 2009
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#65
elwood1251 wrote:

Well isn't there a reason that a particular opening has winning statistics? Doesn't that mean that white players are playing a harder opening for black to beat? Which I do believe is the point of what Teacher_1 is saying.

Yes. No. That's why someone invoked George Carlin.

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teacher_1
Dec 6, 2009
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#66

Some of you have UNDERSTOOD what I was talking about, some of you just.....dont....get...it.

I was NOT talking about what is the best opening to play. As you all should know, I HATE talking about best openings. I just despise it. I simply said the BEST first move is D4.

Everyone got off on this tangent about openings. Please, stay on topic.

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bondiggity
Dec 6, 2009
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#67
teacher_1 wrote:

Some of you have UNDERSTOOD what I was talking about, some of you just.....dont....get...it.

I was NOT talking about what is the best opening to play. As you all should know, I HATE talking about best openings. I just despise it. I simply said the BEST first move is D4.

Everyone got off on this tangent about openings. Please, stay on topic.

Well that's simply because you are wrong. If black played intelligently, and picked his best defense (sicilian or Nimzo), white is neither better nor worse for picking one over the other. The fact that you can't understand that is simply mind boggling. 

 

The only correct thing you said is that it is better to play white. 

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KillaBeez
Dec 8, 2009
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#68

I think some of Rybka's Monte Carlo analysis should be in order on this one.  Why don't you set Rybka to a club player setting (1800 rated?) and perform a Monte Carlo starting from both 1. e4 and 1. d4?  We could then see how each move stacks up over a period of many games.  We could then do confidence intervals on this to see whether or not the difference is significant.

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Elubas
Dec 8, 2009
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#69
Nytik wrote:

One more post before I get some shuteye.

I think the main flaw in this argument is what the 56% win statistic actually represents. The problem is thus:

If you play 1. d4, is there a 56% chance you'll win? Of course not! It's dependent on a LOT of other factors! Just because 56% of games in the past (and master games, at that) have been wins for white does not have any bearing on the game at hand.

I hope that helps anyone who the resident chess.com imbecile has managed to beguile this evening...

We all know teacher_1 isn't serious and doesn't actually believe everything he says, or else he's retarded.