The best chess openings that compels a draw against stronger person. - Chess Forums - Page 2

MGleason

Sep 12, 2015

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#21

Danish Gambit. Surefire draw every time.

TheBlunderfulPlayer

Sep 12, 2015

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#22

abrahampenrose wrote:

For an opening to be a drawing weapon, you'll need to be able to use it. White is gonna play something like a4 or h3 in 90% of games, so the Marshall Attack won't even occur.

Now, a true drawing weapon is the Berlin wall, or the Petroff. It can't be avoided, unless White stays away from 1.e4. If he tries 1.d4, then the Slav comes into play. So Black will never have a shortage of drawish openings to pick from.

But anyway, saying that drawish openings don't exist, is just plain dumb. And converting the question into "no openings lead to draws" is even dumber, by arguing that there can be no ideal cases, and therefore no cases at all. So just stop it with the "you can't compel a draw" argument. It's only cute the first time.

Exactly! There are openings that have higher drawing chances compared to other openings. The Berlin Defense (Berlin Wall) is a prominent example.

DiogenesDue

Sep 12, 2015

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TheBlunderfulPlayer wrote:

Nothing from the pre-computer era is really "well known"...it's all been/being re-evaluated under harsher lights now. So, if it is or isn't now a drawing weapon (I am not here to argue that point), it's from modern analysis, not anything from 1965.

That's pretty obvious!

Glad you agree with me.

thegreat_patzer

Sep 12, 2015

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#24

I may be a patzer... but I think the opening you have the best chance to draw an opponent is your BEST most familair, opening (whatever that is)...

you aren't likely to draw No matter What against a stronger player- so why would you chances be higher in an opening you don't play and therefore aren't as familiar with?

TheBlunderfulPlayer

Sep 12, 2015

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#25

Another option is to "go for broke" against a much stronger opponent. It sometimes pays off!

csalami

Sep 13, 2015

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#26

TheBlunderfulPlayer írta:

abrahampenrose wrote:

For an opening to be a drawing weapon, you'll need to be able to use it. White is gonna play something like a4 or h3 in 90% of games, so the Marshall Attack won't even occur.

Now, a true drawing weapon is the Berlin wall, or the Petroff. It can't be avoided, unless White stays away from 1.e4. If he tries 1.d4, then the Slav comes into play. So Black will never have a shortage of drawish openings to pick from.

But anyway, saying that drawish openings don't exist, is just plain dumb. And converting the question into "no openings lead to draws" is even dumber, by arguing that there can be no ideal cases, and therefore no cases at all. So just stop it with the "you can't compel a draw" argument. It's only cute the first time.

Exactly! There are openings that have higher drawing chances compared to other openings. The Berlin Defense (Berlin Wall) is a prominent example.

There aren't any drawish openings below grandmaster level...
A very drawish opening simply means that by perfect play the position is so symmetrical that neither player can make any progress. (It could be because of other things, like forced draws which sometimes appear)
But the point is, if you can't keep a drawish position drawish, than it isn't a drawish position for you.

And certainly there are no openings that force a draw unless your opponent wants that as well.

apostolis1

Sep 13, 2015

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#1 I don't think there is such a thing as an opening which forces a draw against a stronger opening. There are openings you can play as white, such as the KIA or the london system which give black an equal position. But that's worse than playing an agressive opening cause normally in such slow positional positions the stronger player will outplay you. As someone already mentioned the berlin wall is such an opening, where technique matters very much, which is the asset of the stronger player. On the other hand the openings that will give you most chances against a stronger oponnent are those that create complications and aggresive positions where they have the opportunity to go wrong, eg sicilian.