The problem with the new "Brilliant" moves feature..

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rishabh11great

Chess.com recently changed the way it evaluated a move as "Brilliant", so now a lot of players frequently getting them, but the problem is a lot of them are actually pretty easy and not so "Brilliant." 

 In one of the recent games, I got 4 brilliant moves back to back, just because I knowingly "hung" a piece which was not really hanging.

https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/live/36129579533

(I played really badly and lost the game, so don't look at that lol)

 

alpha_zer000

props to you for calling this out and not flexing 4 brilliant moves in a game

rishabh11great
alpha_zer000 wrote:

props to you for calling this out and not flexing 4 brilliant moves in a game

 Those weren't really Brilliant, so had to point this. (Also the game was terrible lol)

alpha_zer000

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Ilampozhil25
rishabh11great wrote:

Chess.com recently changed the way it evaluated a move as "Brilliant", so now a lot of players frequently getting them, but the problem is a lot of them are actually pretty easy and not so "Brilliant." 

 In one of the recent games, I got 4 brilliant moves back to back, just because I knowingly "hung" a piece which was not really hanging.

yes, this is what "brilliant move" is now...

https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/live/36129579533

(I played really badly and lost the game, so don't look at that lol)

 

 

tygxc

A true brilliant move satisfies 4 criteria
1) It is a winning move: losing or drawing moves are not brilliant
2) It is unique: when several moves win, then none is brilliant
3) It involves a sacrifice: aesthetically pleasing
4) It is a quiet move: no check or capture as these are too obvious

rishabh11great
tygxc wrote:

A true brilliant move satisfies 4 criteria
1) It is a winning move: losing or drawing moves are not brilliant
2) It is unique: when several moves win, then none is brilliant
3) It involves a sacrifice: aesthetically pleasing
4) It is a quiet move: no check or capture as these are too obvious

How can a sacrifice be a quiet move? Also if there’s only one move that draws/equality in a position and it’s very tough to spot than it’s surely Brilliant. 

tygxc

#7
How can a sacrifice be a quiet move?
Here are 3 examples of true brilliant moves.
https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1031957

https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1042835

https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1094915

 

Marcyful
rishabh11great wrote:

Chess.com recently changed the way it evaluated a move as "Brilliant", so now a lot of players frequently getting them, but the problem is a lot of them are actually pretty easy and not so "Brilliant." 

 In one of the recent games, I got 4 brilliant moves back to back, just because I knowingly "hung" a piece which was not really hanging.

https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/live/36129579533

(I played really badly and lost the game, so don't look at that lol)

 

Those 4 moves are what I call bruhlliant moves

many_hanging_pieces
tygxc wrote:

A true brilliant move satisfies 4 criteria
1) It is a winning move: losing or drawing moves are not brilliant
2) It is unique: when several moves win, then none is brilliant
3) It involves a sacrifice: aesthetically pleasing
4) It is a quiet move: no check or capture as these are too obvious

Congratulations on contradicting your own criteria with your examples! Each of your examples breaks at least one of your criteria!

Botvinnik's Ba3 is considered brilliant but is not a 'quiet' move as Ba3 is attacking the Black queen.

Euwe's Rh8 is considered brilliant but the engine does not evaluate the position after Rh8 as winning for him; his opponent blundered shortly after.

Marshall's Qg3 is considered brilliant but he had alternative ways to win, as he was a piece up at the time.

Rubinstein's Rxc3 in his Immortal Game is considered a brilliant move despite it being a capture.

tygxc

#10
Quiet move = neither check (+) nor capture (x)
Botvinnik's Ba3 satisfies all 4 criteria.

many_hanging_pieces
tygxc wrote:

#10
Quiet move = neither check (+) nor capture (x)
Botvinnik's Ba3 satisfies all 4 criteria.

Incorrect. A quiet move is neither a check, capture or threat.

Ba3 offers a direct threat to the Black queen, meaning it is not a quiet move.