This is why you should study Master games

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letsgohome
shell_knight wrote:

False.

Next statement please.

What have you done?

letsgohome
shell_knight wrote:

False.

Next statement please.

So are you saying that the OP is narcissistic and not humble? Wow. the blatant disregard.  

letsgohome
tthechesstitan wrote:
grandmastergauri wrote:

First, take a look at this masterpiece:

 

 



 

It was my dream to recreate the same masterpiece that Lasker did. After many attempts, I finally got my chance.

 

So yes ladies and gentleman, the way to get better at chess is to undoubtedly look at the games of great players. fake it till you make it.

Nice one, congrats!

http://chess-teacher.com/1632.html

shell_knight

@ 168
Giving you insight into both what I think when I read your imaginative narratives and the small effort I'm now willing to put into responding.

I_Am_Second
Yaroslavl wrote:

@I_Am_Second

You must have studied the  classical 8 fallaciouus arguments.  Ad-hominem is one of them.  I can see you have chosen to specialize in it.

There is only this to write in response:  I would agree with you, if you were right!! 


It wasnt directed at you Yaroslavl

letsgohome
shell_knight wrote:
letsgohome wrote:

This is for the OP: 

What is your favourite master game?

Which part of the game do you usually focus on when analyzing a master game (opening, middle or end)?

And can you show us an example of an analysis that you might run (rough notes of important positions and why they are crucial) ?

Thank you

A little too optimistic I think.

Imagine spending 10 years in an origami class, and then one day showing off something you think is both beautiful and practically valuable.  Then imagine an autistic kid takes a poop on it and flails around, seemingly endlessly.  Take a guess how long you'll stick around.

I will thank the austistic kid for showing me the true meaning of life and then make it my life's work to deify him. 

letsgohome
I_Am_Second wrote:
Yaroslavl wrote:

@I_Am_Second

You must have studied the  classical 8 fallaciouus arguments.  Ad-hominem is one of them.  I can see you have chosen to specialize in it.

There is only this to write in response:  I would agree with you, if you were right!! 


It wasnt directed at you Yaroslavl

scared? Even the three strooges know you failed brah.

letsgohome
letsgohome wrote:

This is for the OP: 

What is your favourite master game?

Which part of the game do you usually focus on when analyzing a master game (opening, middle or end)?

And can you show us an example of an analysis that you might run (rough notes of important positions and why they are crucial) ?

Thank you

letsgohome
letsgohome wrote:
tthechesstitan wrote:
grandmastergauri wrote:

First, take a look at this masterpiece:

 

 



 

It was my dream to recreate the same masterpiece that Lasker did. After many attempts, I finally got my chance.

 

So yes ladies and gentleman, the way to get better at chess is to undoubtedly look at the games of great players. fake it till you make it.

Nice one, congrats!

http://chess-teacher.com/1632.html

yureesystem

I totally agree, studying past and present masters helps your game a lot.

letsgohome
yureesystem wrote:

I totally agree, studying past and present masters helps your game a lot.

What games have you studied and what is your criteria in choosing a game to study in the future

Yaroslavl
letsgohome wrote:
yureesystem wrote:

I totally agree, studying past and present masters helps your game a lot.

What games have you studied and what is your criteria in choosing a game to study in the future

Purchase or download  a games database like Chessgames 5 millon+ games database.  Next purchase or download software like Chess Openings Wizard. Select an opening repertore (3 openings as White and 3 openings as Black).  Have the computer create an opening tree based on those 6 openings from the games database.  Practice on Chess Openings Wizard (a tutorial program) for 2-3 years until you have an openings visualization pattern memory bank of those 6 openings. 

SilentKnighte5
adypady02 wrote:
Yaroslavl wrote:
letsgohome wrote:
yureesystem wrote:

I totally agree, studying past and present masters helps your game a lot.

What games have you studied and what is your criteria in choosing a game to study in the future

Purchase or download  a games database like Chessgames 5 millon+ games database.  Next purchase or download software like Chess Openings Wizard. Select an opening repertore (3 openings as White and 3 openings as Black).  Have the computer create an opening tree based on those 6 openings from the games database.  Practice on Chess Openings Wizard (a tutorial program) for 2-3 years until you have an openings visualization pattern memory bank of those 6 openings. 

seems to time consuming

I know, right?

Yaroslavl
SilentKnighte5 wrote:
adypady02 wrote:
Yaroslavl wrote:
letsgohome wrote:
yureesystem wrote:

I totally agree, studying past and present masters helps your game a lot.

What games have you studied and what is your criteria in choosing a game to study in the future

Purchase or download  a games database like Chessgames 5 millon+ games database.  Next purchase or download software like Chess Openings Wizard. Select an opening repertore (3 openings as White and 3 openings as Black).  Have the computer create an opening tree based on those 6 openings from the games database.  Practice on Chess Openings Wizard (a tutorial program) for 2-3 years until you have an openings visualization pattern memory bank of those 6 openings. 

seems to time consuming

I know, right?

You fellas are way too smart for me.

sisu

Gauri is FM because he put the hard work in. How do you know what type of positions you will get in your games? Study the classics. Enough said.

shell_knight
adypady02 wrote:
Yaroslavl wrote:
letsgohome wrote:
yureesystem wrote:

I totally agree, studying past and present masters helps your game a lot.

What games have you studied and what is your criteria in choosing a game to study in the future

Purchase or download  a games database like Chessgames 5 millon+ games database.  Next purchase or download software like Chess Openings Wizard. Select an opening repertore (3 openings as White and 3 openings as Black).  Have the computer create an opening tree based on those 6 openings from the games database.  Practice on Chess Openings Wizard (a tutorial program) for 2-3 years until you have an openings visualization pattern memory bank of those 6 openings. 

seems to time consuming

Yes, and even if you do it then you'll successfully reach +/= positions every time you play someone under, lets say 2400, while at the same time being overwhelmingly clueless of what to do next, and achieve a lost position within the next 10 moves.

More likely, because you don't understand things, you'll unknowingly memorize lines that lead to very difficult, impractical, or even worse positions, as computers sometimes shell out.

lenslens1

I was more impressed by a Susan Polgar article where white attacks with the same formation with a pawn on d4 instead of f4 (initially). It's a more subtle attack because it involves an x-ray with the bishop on b2 and has a more positional nature in its early phase. Got to play it and win a nice attacking game weeks later. Lasker in this game was clearly toying/disrespecting his opponent, who didn't even resign in a timely fashion. I do not think that playing through games without an explanation of what is going on is an efficient way to improve.

Yaroslavl
shell_knight wrote:
adypady02 wrote:
Yaroslavl wrote:
letsgohome wrote:
yureesystem wrote:

I totally agree, studying past and present masters helps your game a lot.

What games have you studied and what is your criteria in choosing a game to study in the future

Purchase or download  a games database like Chessgames 5 millon+ games database.  Next purchase or download software like Chess Openings Wizard. Select an opening repertore (3 openings as White and 3 openings as Black).  Have the computer create an opening tree based on those 6 openings from the games database.  Practice on Chess Openings Wizard (a tutorial program) for 2-3 years until you have an openings visualization pattern memory bank of those 6 openings. 

seems to time consuming

Yes, and even if you do it then you'll successfully reach +/= positions every time you play someone under, lets say 2400, while at the same time being overwhelmingly clueless of what to do next, and achieve a lost position within the next 10 moves.

More likely, because you don't understand things, you'll unknowingly memorize lines that lead to very difficult, impractical, or even worse positions, as computers sometimes shell out.

My response was directed at a very specific question by letsgohome t post#177 highlighted in bold red above. 

Had his question been more comprehensive in nature, for example:  What steps do I have to take to determine what games to study in order to acquire a comlete opening visualization pattern memory bank?

I would have responded as part of my response that understanding the why of moves is essential.  Without it, it is just rote memorization and useless. My response would have included recommendations to acquire tournament books like Zurich 1953 that is excellently annotated by David Bronstein.  Books like My System, Pawn Power In Chess, etc.  

Your reaction to my answer to letsgohome probably in conjunction with the possibility that you saw the unr. on my profile provides me with the opportunity to explain in depth.  As opposed to puffing myself up and braggartly displaying my title, which would get me responses of agreement without question most of the time.  And, consequently the  player that comes to  these forums to learn would learn nothing from my posts.

shell_knight

Saying I overreacted to your unrated profile is giving me too much credit.  I just read the post and ran with it, I didn't even check your profile.  I've seen you make useful posts before.  Sorry to give a bad impression.

Yaroslavl

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