Thoughts on the Benoni Defense?

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Guardian_Eatos

The benoni is known to be a bad opening... 

Sophist4Life

Benoni provides great opportunities to fight for a win for Black. Is a very combative opening, that´s why we choose it. 

sndeww
Guardian_Eatos hat geschrieben:

The benoni is known to be a bad opening... 

I'd rather play a bad opening than play a drawish opening.

Guardian_Eatos

Ideally I would think that you play it via nimzo indian move order and only play it if white plays 3.Nf3 or 3.g3. This means that black avoids the dangerous taimanov attack. 

sndeww

Heh, I'm a 3.g3 player in the benoni. White has many ways to put the positional pressure on black. But since I don't really know the theory in 3min games I more often than not get walloped.

Sophist4Life
B1ZMARK wrote:
Guardian_Eatos hat geschrieben:

The benoni is known to be a bad opening... 

I'd rather play a bad opening than play a drawish opening.

That´s the spirit. 

Usually, I play the Slav.  But I lost count of how many times some opponents tried the Slav Exchange aiming for symmetry and a draw. 

sndeww
BlitzKriegBoy99 hat geschrieben:
B1ZMARK wrote:
Guardian_Eatos hat geschrieben:

The benoni is known to be a bad opening... 

I'd rather play a bad opening than play a drawish opening.

That´s the spirit. 

Usually, I play the Slav.  But I lost count of how many times some opponents tried the Slav Exchange aiming for symmetry and a draw. 

Although you'd probably love to play against my line in the exchange slav... Black equalizes fairly straightforward. Just play e5. On the other hand, playing the exchange variation of almost everything means I can say something like, "Ten years of playing the exchange slav and exchange QGD has prepared me for this moment, want to exchange vows?" tongue.png

pfren

I would probably pick Marin's databases on Modern Chess, although Petrov's book on Quality Chess and Doknjas on Everyman are also good.
The lines suggested are fine, although you might add a "slightly suspect line" to play against the "Modern Classic" variation with h3 and Bd3: The best move for Black 9...b5 is not really suitable to play for a win against anybody.

Guardian_Eatos

If you must play the benoni, chessable always has high-quality content on openings. https://www.chessable.com/the-wild-wild-benoni/course/20736/

Steven-ODonoghue
ChesswithNickolay wrote:

Computer

Sigh. One way to ensure you will NEVER improve at chess is to obsess over computer evaluations of openings. Especially when such openings have been played at the top level for many decades. To say that the Benoni is only suitable for 1200s and below is incredibly ignorant

sndeww
Steven-ODonoghue hat geschrieben:
ChesswithNickolay wrote:

Computer

Sigh. One way to ensure you will NEVER improve at chess is to obsess over computer evaluations of openings. Especially when such openings have been played at the top level for many decades. To say that the Benoni is only suitable for 1200s and below is incredibly ignorant

I thought people who were saying "you can't rely on computer for everything" were just being delusional but no 😔 

sndeww

like... shudders... the Queen's Gambit Declined. 

Aeugh.

GM_TINYMINORJOY

Yeah @ChesswithNickolay is right

pfren
ChesswithNickolay έγραψε:
Steven-ODonoghue wrote:
ChesswithNickolay wrote:

Computer

Sigh. One way to ensure you will NEVER improve at chess is to obsess over computer evaluations of openings. Especially when such openings have been played at the top level for many decades. To say that the Benoni is only suitable for 1200s and below is incredibly ignorant

I am saying that it works best at that level. But at a higher level, there are better alternatives.

This is true. The benoni shouldn't work that well at the 2900+ level.

Still, I do not know why you are bothered about this.

noobpawn99

idk im bad at chess

 

koroshabdoli

سلام دوست گرامی 

من معتقدم که چون شطرنج یک رفتار تجربی است. برای رسیدن به بالاترین بازدهی مفید می باید مباحث را با نمونه های تجربی همراه نمود .

مثال وقتی می خواهیم درمورد لندن بحث کنیم ابتدا یک یا...نمونه را تجزیه تحلیل کنیم .تحلیلی کوتاه  و خلاصه و بعد وارد بحث شویم .نمونه دراین موارد درحقیقت مقدمه  محسوب می‌شود. 

Sophist4Life
pfren wrote:

I would probably pick Marin's databases on Modern Chess, although Petrov's book on Quality Chess and Doknjas on Everyman are also good.
The lines suggested are fine, although you might add a "slightly suspect line" to play against the "Modern Classic" variation with h3 and Bd3: The best move for Black 9...b5 is not really suitable to play for a win against anybody.

Thanks for the nice recommendations. I´m aware of Petrov´s book, but not the other ones. Will check them out. 

Instead of 9...b5 we are aiming for 9...a6. 

Sophist4Life
B1ZMARK wrote:

like... shudders... the Queen's Gambit Declined. 

Aeugh.

Hahahahahaha

Sophist4Life
koroshabdoli wrote:

سلام دوست گرامی 

من معتقدم که چون شطرنج یک رفتار تجربی است. برای رسیدن به بالاترین بازدهی مفید می باید مباحث را با نمونه های تجربی همراه نمود .

مثال وقتی می خواهیم درمورد لندن بحث کنیم ابتدا یک یا...نمونه را تجزیه تحلیل کنیم .تحلیلی کوتاه  و خلاصه و بعد وارد بحث شویم .نمونه دراین موارد درحقیقت مقدمه  محسوب می‌شود. 

Hi Cyrus. 

Yes, I agree completely! Part of my student´s homework is to play some blitz games using the benoni and annalyzse them.

Cheers 

sndeww
Optimissed hat geschrieben:
BlitzKriegBoy99 wrote:
B1ZMARK wrote:

like... shudders... the Queen's Gambit Declined. 

Aeugh.

Hahahahahaha

He goes for tactics, tactics tactics. QGD is too difficult for him because the tactics are more hidden.
Incidentally, why are you even thinking of playing the MB when you could get him to play the Slav?

Nah, I don’t like QGD because of light squares bishop and the position feels passive to me.