Tournament kid player cheating what should I do?

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PRESSALTF4

There's always this kid who moves a pinned piece somewhere and then changes his mind and says adjust. What should I do?

mcmodern

how old is the kid? If he is very young, I would just let it go. You could always bring the director to make him move if you wish.

Jenium

Yeah, call the arbiter. Rules are there for everyone. And the kid might learn something too.

ReddyJ

He isn't cheating.Moving a pinned doesn't mean he is breaking the rule exactly.Maybe he didn't know it was pinned to the king.

Jenium

It depends. The piece could be pinned to the queen or the rook...

Diakonia
trollmickey wrote:

There's always this kid who moves a pinned piece somewhere and then changes his mind and says adjust. What should I do?

Have you explained the rules to him?

RobertPaulson13

It's a clock run-off if he takes an illegal action.

ChessOfPlayer

Tell their mother.

JubilationTCornpone

I do think it depends on his/her age.  If they are fourteen, I might call the TD--that's old enough to know better, and since the overall tournament result is impacted, it affects more than just you.  If they are six, I'd probably let it go but try to figure out who is their coach and mention it to them as something they might want to talk about without pointing any fingers.

ThrillerFan
ReddyJ wrote:

He isn't cheating.Moving a pinned doesn't mean he is breaking the rule exactly.Maybe he didn't know it was pinned to the king.

Also, it's possible to move a piece pinned to the King.  If White's Queen is on c3, nothing on d2, his King on e1, and Black plays Bb4 with a black pawn on a5, and White touches the Queen, he still has legal moves with it, Qd2 and Qxb4, so even with an absolute pin, there may still be legal moves.  If there is even one legal move with the piece touched, it must be moved.

TRextastic
trollmickey wrote:

There's always this kid who moves a pinned piece somewhere and then changes his mind and says adjust. What should I do?

 

Are there touch move rules in place? If so, pause the clock and call the TD over. Even if it's a child, that's how they learn. Always giving them free passes and take backs will make the learning process a lot longer. When the consequences are severe, he'll learn quickly. Also, to always claim it's adjusting if, to you, it's very obviously not, is just a flat out lie then. Mistakes are mistakes. If he doesn't own them, then you're encouraging him to be a cheat.

lifeonvenus

kill him

Robert_New_Alekhine

Depends on the age, rating, and maturity.

ciscodad

Does not matter the age. Call the TD. I have told me kids to raise their hands if their opponent is not following the rules. Does not matter the age. After all this is a tournament. Everyone should know the rules before they take part in a tournament.

TRextastic
ciscodad wrote:

Does not matter the age. Call the TD. I have told me kids to raise their hands if their opponent is not following the rules. Does not matter the age. After all this is a tournament. Everyone should know the rules before they take part in a tournament.

That's awesome parenting in my opinion. Kids need to learn that you shouldn't make decisions with the expectation that they can just take it back if it doesn't work out.

DrSpudnik

Is the piece pinned to the king? If so, the move wasn't legal anyhow (most likely). But, if someone grabs a piece and then later says adjust, that isn't an adjust if you're moving it around the board. TD should be called and opponent put on notice.

SonOfThunder2

It says in the rules that if an illegal move is played and the player releases the the piece it can be called and it can be checkmated.  That is how a king can capture a king.

DrSpudnik

The piece doesn't have to be released for this antic to be called.

SonOfThunder2

You still can take the king if they move the pinned piece.

u0110001101101000

You should run up on him like machine gun kelly, with a black skelly, put one in his belly, and take his pellypelly.