Talking Trash - We're on-line so I guess its to be more expected, but does it belong? We've probably all come up against them: "prepare to lose", "you don't have a clue do you?", "move faster, faster", "you're too slow", "have you ever played before? This is chess in case you were wondering".....these are some of the comments I've experienced....I realize the best way to beat them is to defeat them on the board; but does this kind of talk belong? Here or anywhere else for that matter? Food for thought......
I don't have any qualms about offending anyone if they're ill-mannered.
I completely agree - It should only occur if there is a relatioship that supports it....never with someone you've just met or don't know. And certainly not the first word(s) out of your "mouth"....
Thanks for your comments
I see two issues here:
1. Freedom of speach
If it's good enough for the US Constitution, it's good enough for chess.com. I think that more freedom is always better, and chess.com should not ban any expression of speach. I also think spam and "cybering" is really annoying and the lack of it is one of the things that makes chess.com so much cooler than, say, yahoo chess. (play now at yahoo.games.com) So yes fans of the tao there is a balance.
I think this is the real issue that this discussion is about. And the only thing I can think of is game theory.
Lets assume there are two kinds of people: 1. trashTalkers (tt)
let J = number of players enjoing the game
tt + tt = 2
ts + ts = 2
tt + ts =1
This is assuming that trashTalkers will always talk trash (an unfair assumtion I would say)
now if nobody talks trash then we get:
tt + tt = 0
ts + ts =2
tt + ts =1
Also if everybody talks trash (even the teaSippers) then we get:
tt + tt = 2
ts + ts = 0
tt + ts = 1
Everything else being equal it seems that not talking trash if you enjoy it is as silly as talking trash even though you disdain it. But I think there is another factor is that most people don't want to offend, yes even the trashTalkers.
So I think the best solution if you enjoy talking trash but don't wish to offend is to find a subtle way to invite the trash without offending the teaSippers. I think the title of the game is a good medium for this. BTW isn't it cool as that chess.com lets you name your game?
Here is a list of names that could make it clear that trash talking is not only welcomed but encouraged:
school 4 fools
warning: adult language
let's talk some trash!!!
U think ur gud?
my knights gonna fork your queen
Thank you - That was awesome! and to the point!
I've also seen good players who were rude and not well-mannered. But of course stronger players win more games, and thus get frustrated less over losing games (they just lose less games), and thus in general they are a little more well mannered