Trying to understand women's logic towards chess

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president_max

bunnies think humans thinks too much about how others think to do any real useful thinking

OculorumAcies

president_max schrieb:

bunnies think humans thinks too much about how others think to do any real useful thinking

Now that makes me think, what is a useful thought?

president_max

thoughts of luscious carrots

president_max

and multiplying.  can't do without math ...

OculorumAcies

president_max schrieb:

and multiplying.  can't do without math ...

Hehe no wonder bunnies are well-known for it.

president_max

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lofina_eidel_ismail
president_max wrote:

and multiplying.  can't do without math ...

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bong711

Women dont like mental games. They avoid wrinkles.

Gamificast

It's not just chess and not just women. A lot of people think intellectual things are a waste of time, despite the fact that they probably watch football or soaps on TV, which in my opinion is much more time wasting.

ESP-918

STUZZICADENTI 👍👍👍

I agree with each of your comment 100% , I think you are clever man and have enough experiences with women, that's for sure.

I like your answers , because they are very truthful, brutal , straightforward! You are not trying to impress someone with your answer here or trying to look good , you just telling simple truth how it it ! Brave! Well done!

AntonioVivaldiJr
ESP-918 wrote:

STUZZICADENTI 👍👍👍

 

I agree with each of your comment 100% , I think you are clever man and have enough experiences with women, that's for sure.

 

I like your answers , because they are very truthful, brutal , straightforward! You are not trying to impress someone with your answer here or trying to look good , you just telling simple truth how it it ! Brave! Well done!

 

But he *did* impress *you*, didn't he? 

AntonioVivaldiJr
The_Chin_Of_Quinn wrote:

This topic is dumb. Stop being dumb.

This is the most cogent post so far. 

The_Chin_Of_Quinn
StupidGM wrote:

One woman wanted to BREED a champion and actually had me in mind for the father. 

Until she found out you're all balls and no shaft, am I right?

AntonioVivaldiJr

Generalities continue to abound. There are women who like chess players, chess, chessboards, chess pieces, dresses with chessboard patterns on them and there are women who can't stand those things. Same goes for men. Generalities are irritating. Cut it out.

When I was in college, I started to hear about how the female brain isn't geared to understand mathematics. This is a silly and utterly incorrect concept. But lots of American women *proudly* accept that their skill is not suited for mathematical thinking. When I was in college, I would visit the math lab to wait for my friend who tutored there. And it was interesting to see that there there *three* intelligent young women who are employed as tutors. These women came from Eastern European countries, so they were not affected by the idiotic stereotype about women not having it in them to understand math when our brains are all the same.

There are many brilliant women chess players. There are many *lousy* women chess players. And the latter are lousy for the same reason that men are lousy. It has nothing to do with them being women. I feel that a lot of reasons that women don't get into chess is because a lot of the nonsense espoused in this utterly idiotic thread. If I were a woman and had to deal with the ridiculous generalizations I've had to read in this comment thread, I might lose interest pretty quickly, too. And if I come to chess.com and get inundated by comments from creeps along the lines of "how are you my dear you are the honey on my bread," I'd probably put a block on my chat too.

In summary, men and women are exactly equal. Period. If you can't get a date, it's probably something wrong with YOU and not the woman who only wants money or handsome men or whatever.

4xel

It has a lot to do with social and cultural environnement. In mine (young and highly educated), I'm always a bit cautious when confessing, but playing video game is seen as neutral by non players, even though rightfully perceived as time consuming. Chess, on the other hand, is of strictly positive value, even seen by people who never played the game, and no difference between gender (also chess being barely less time consuming than video games is a lesser known fact).

 

In your particular social cultural group, I don't think men think less of chess as legos than women, it might just be that they don't bother you with playing lego (btw, for me, playing legos is of positive value too, although I understood what you meant).

The_Chin_Of_Quinn
StupidGM wrote:
The_Chin_Of_Quinn wrote:
StupidGM wrote:

One woman wanted to BREED a champion and actually had me in mind for the father. 

Until she found out you're all balls and no shaft, am I right?

Hey thanks for the sucker-punch.

Always good to know which people need to be treated as enemies.

p.s. -- I rejected her.

You can't break up with me! I'm breaking up with you!

The_Chin_Of_Quinn
AntonioVivaldiJr wrote:

In summary, men and women are exactly equal.

How can you possibly say this? Men aren't equal to other men. Women aren't equal to other women... people are different. Get over it.

But sure, at the same time this topic is dumb, and attracts low key trolls like stuzzicadenti who does his looking down on women bit whenever a topic like this pops up.

AntonioVivaldiJr
The_Chin_Of_Quinn wrote:
AntonioVivaldiJr wrote:

In summary, men and women are exactly equal.

How can you possibly say this? Men aren't equal to other men. Women aren't equal to other women... people are different. Get over it.

But sure, at the same time this topic is dumb, and attracts low key trolls like stuzzicadenti who does his looking down on women bit whenever a topic like this pops up.

I didn't word myself properly but spoke within the confines of the generalizations made here. Yes, ultimately, there are different levels of skill, beauty, morality, etc between different people, but, on the whole, when certain sets of people want to generalize about men, women, blacks, whites, Americans, Asians, etc., in my opinion, people are all *essentially* equal in that gender, skin color, ethnicity, race, whatever you want won't determine whether someone is better or worse at a certain task. The reason x is better at y isn't because of innate genetic traits. It's because of various socio-economic factors that encourage certain sets of people to engage in different tasks, 

AntonioVivaldiJr
stuzzicadenti wrote:

This is simple. Men subconsciously desire competition, whether it's chess, video games, sports, body building, or in their careers, etc. That will go a long way to explain most of male behavior, and it is also the most powerful driver or motivation that directly connects with the hormones in male brains (i.e., testosterone). Many women also love competition, but there are two big differences: 1) the competition is primarily of a social nature, and 2) the competition is not the most important things for them -- they prefer to use competition as a way to build and develop more their relationships, friendships, social groups.

Not to say that men cannot also be competitive with friendships, but it is not a pattern that you see with men, whereas with women it happens all the time.

Nonsense. Men and women are equally competitive and for the same reasons. The problem with women's competition is that, a lot of times, men like yourself will diminish various competitors for stupid generalized reasons. When people talk about women's soccer, lots of men will grunt about how it's not "real" soccer. Same thing with chess. I could imagine how a woman might be discouraged to continue playing chess when she sits across a table from a man who will judge everything about her but her ability to play, justifying her success or failure according to his own ridiculous assessment of hormones and other neurological factors.

There are a lot of strong women chess players and a lot of men that can't play their way out of a paper bag. My guess is that there aren't more women chess players because they may be discouraged by elders who feel they are wasting their time and maybe because some women are creeped out by the losers who flirt with them rather than enjoy a good game.

ManyQueen

Maybe the fact that there is a separate woman's chess league is contributing to that. Chess is intellectual. MEN ARE NOT SMARTER THAN WOMAN. A woman has to work ten times harder to get recognition than a guy.