US Chess Championship. Where are the Americans?

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Look at them.........95% immigrants. This has absolutely nothing to do with a US Championship.

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In the United States, I'd guess most people have surnames that are not English.

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Yeah, and your nation's best player is Anish Giri. These players are American citizens and are the best players in the U.S.C.F. What is your problem with this?

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VeeDeeVee wrote:

Look at them.........95% immigrants. This has absolutely nothing to do with a US Championship.

 

Hmm ...

Robson born in Guam (US Territory)
Sevian born in New York
Troff born in Utah
Shankland born in California
Holt born in Kansas
Naroditsky born in California

Nakamura was born in Japan but his mother was a US national and he moved to the US when he was two.

So, not 95% Wink

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You shouldn't even bother to answer to this.

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chessmicky wrote:

Who are these imbeciles who keep insisting that Immigrents aren't Americans. Of course they are. The United States is a magnet, attracting people from all over the world. Unlike, say, the Netherlands

Mostly just this guy lately, but a lot of people seem to be just as misguided in my experience.  Classify it as ignorance.

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stuzzicadenti escribió:

For everyone in the USA, someone in your family was an immigrant.

Do not feel special that you are born in USA.

That's what makes special that country, IMHO. But all of us are immigrants, anyway.

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stuzzicadenti wrote:

For everyone in the USA, someone in your family was an immigrant.

Do not feel special that you are born in USA.

Well, no, certainly not everyone.  A lot, sure, but not nearly everyone.

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stuzzicadenti wrote:

For everyone in the USA, someone in your family was an immigrant.

Do not feel special that you are born in USA.

I don't see how those two statements are related.

Maybe in other countries if a family member is an immigrant it is shameful?

This is an odd thought to me, because an immigrant to the United States is usually a person who has many good qualities. High motivation, high intelligence, and hard worker.

I can't imagine going to University in a 2nd language, or starting a business or professional career in a foreign culture. These people are amazing.

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Oops...........

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Wow, someone called their daughter 'Nazi' .... lost for words.

And VeeDeeVee, I am slightly ashamed of you as a countryman, for this thread. And for a history lesson: Bobby Fischer only just about managed to be born in the US, both his parents (father is shrouded in some mystery) were foreignors. One of the next best American chess players Sammy Reshevsky was born in Poland. So let's not harp on about this issue. 

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stuzzicadenti wrote:
pawpatrol wrote:
stuzzicadenti wrote:

For everyone in the USA, someone in your family was an immigrant.

Do not feel special that you are born in USA.

Well, no, certainly not everyone.  A lot, sure, but not nearly everyone.

Family does not mean only the people you are related to who are alive / living.

It includes your ancestors like parents, grandparents, etc.

I'm aware of that.  Maybe you've never heard of "Native Americans?"

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pawpatrol wrote:
stuzzicadenti wrote:
pawpatrol wrote:
stuzzicadenti wrote:

For everyone in the USA, someone in your family was an immigrant.

Do not feel special that you are born in USA.

Well, no, certainly not everyone.  A lot, sure, but not nearly everyone.

Family does not mean only the people you are related to who are alive / living.

It includes your ancestors like parents, grandparents, etc.

I'm aware of that.  Maybe you've never heard of "Native Americans?"

Native Americans came mostly from Siberia.Some came from Europe.

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Whoever doesn't live in Eastern Africa is an immigrant.

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At the end of the day, we all immigrated from the ocean.

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Pulpofeira wrote:

Whoever doesn't live in Eastern Africa is an immigrant.

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Nakamura in trouble against a 2525 guy named Holt

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stuzzicadenti wrote:

FYI, there is scientific evidence based on genetic analysis that Native Americans crossed the Bering Strait in ancient times when it was still solid land/ice which allowed them to travel/migrate from the region of modern-day Siberia in the currently Russian part of Asia to the continent of Native America. Even they descended from another area of the world which means their forefathers were immigrants. As a result, Native Americans are closely genetically linked to Asians.

If you go back far enough everyone is descended from Africans.

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I think we are trying really hard to avoid the point here.

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