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Mine wasn't because I found Chess Mentor too boring.

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The only way it's helped me is to see I was wasting my time with this game.

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I think it helped me but I didn't give it as much time as I should have.

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Just try all the basic courses and all the tactics courses on Chess Mentor. 

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woodshover wrote:

The only way it's helped me is to see I was wasting my time with this game.


You mean ... with chess? Frown

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Bubatz wrote:
woodshover wrote:

The only way it's helped me is to see I was wasting my time with this game.


You mean ... with chess?


 What else?

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woodshover wrote:
Bubatz wrote:
woodshover wrote:

The only way it's helped me is to see I was wasting my time with this game.


You mean ... with chess?


 What else?


I was hoping you just meant chess mentor. Why do you think you've been wasting your time?

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I had a similar experience woodshover, when the details of a certain game were being explained to me by an experienced player.  "If this is how serious people play, then I'm fine right where I am, thanks."

So just have fun with your chess, there's no link between skill and enjoyment much less skill and the right to enjoy a game.

Also, the method doesn't matter too much... chess mentor is good quality, but so are tons of other books.  Seriously spend time with it and you'll get better.

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Yeah, just learn tactics any way you find enjoyable. 

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waffllemaster wrote:

I had a similar experience woodshover, when the details of a certain game were being explained to me by an experienced player.  "If this is how serious people play, then I'm fine right where I am, thanks."

So just have fun with your chess, there's no link between skill and enjoyment much less skill and the right to enjoy a game.

Also, the method doesn't matter too much... chess mentor is good quality, but so are tons of other books.  Seriously spend time with it and you'll get better.


 Answer to post number 8. Because I'm hardly any better than I was when I learned how the pieces move when I joined this site two years ago.  Answer to this post. "There's no connection between skill, and enjoyment." That's not true at my level. I have to depend on my opponent doing something stupid as hell or I won't win. Thus I get no satisfaction when I do win. So I get no enjoyment playing at all.

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Well, that's kind of my point even if I didn't say it very well.

If you don't enjoy the game, it's almost impossible to improve no matter what you try.

If you find the methods outlined in chess mentor and chess books/articles boring, tedious, and uninteresting then there's no way you're going to apply it in your games.

And pushing past your rating really relies on a lot of what can be seen as tedious double checking... does my intended move leave anything unguarded... did his last move threaten something... etc.

 

woodshover wrote

"There's no connection between skill, and enjoyment." That's not true at my level. I have to depend on my opponent doing something stupid as hell or I won't win. Thus I get no satisfaction when I do win. So I get no enjoyment playing at all.


That's relative really, we all have to rely on that sort of thing.  I still enjoy games because my peers are just as bad/good as I am.

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woodshover wrote:
waffllemaster wrote:

I had a similar experience woodshover, when the details of a certain game were being explained to me by an experienced player.  "If this is how serious people play, then I'm fine right where I am, thanks."

So just have fun with your chess, there's no link between skill and enjoyment much less skill and the right to enjoy a game.

Also, the method doesn't matter too much... chess mentor is good quality, but so are tons of other books.  Seriously spend time with it and you'll get better.


 Answer to post number 8. Because I'm hardly any better than I was when I learned how the pieces move when I joined this site two years ago.  Answer to this post. "There's no connection between skill, and enjoyment." That's not true at my level. I have to depend on my opponent doing something stupid as hell or I won't win. Thus I get no satisfaction when I do win. So I get no enjoyment playing at all.


Then the reason is probably something that isn't even mentioned in the videos, chess mentor or the tactical trainer here, namely "thought process", i.e. how to organize your thought when determining your move. I suggest you pick up a copy of Dan Heisman's "A guide to chess improvement: the best of novice nook" where he has a big chapter on that. He also has a more "scientific" book written on the subject called "The Improving Chess Thinker". It' was quite an eye opener for me, really. 

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The Improving Chess Thinker gives you a simple system for selecting each move. 

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woodshover wrote:
waffllemaster wrote:

I had a similar experience woodshover, when the details of a certain game were being explained to me by an experienced player.  "If this is how serious people play, then I'm fine right where I am, thanks."

So just have fun with your chess, there's no link between skill and enjoyment much less skill and the right to enjoy a game.

Also, the method doesn't matter too much... chess mentor is good quality, but so are tons of other books.  Seriously spend time with it and you'll get better.


 Answer to post number 8. Because I'm hardly any better than I was when I learned how the pieces move when I joined this site two years ago.  Answer to this post. "There's no connection between skill, and enjoyment." That's not true at my level. I have to depend on my opponent doing something stupid as hell or I won't win. Thus I get no satisfaction when I do win. So I get no enjoyment playing at all.


Everyone depends on an opponent mistake.  Im a USCF B player, and i depend on mistakes from my opponent.  The only difference is the better you get the smaller the mistakes become. 

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Lawdoginator wrote:

The Improving Chess Thinker gives you a simple system for selecting each move. 


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It teaches you how to make each move. Consider all checks, captures, and threats. 

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Lawdoginator wrote:

It teaches you how to make each move. Consider all checks, captures, and threats. 


 Yea, I just looked it up. Did you read it?

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I can't believe I put a  d   after game in this thread.

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waffllemaster wrote:

I had a similar experience woodshover, when the details of a certain game were being explained to me by an experienced player.  "If this is how serious people play, then I'm fine right where I am, thanks."

So just have fun with your chess, there's no link between skill and enjoyment much less skill and the right to enjoy a game.

Also, the method doesn't matter too much... chess mentor is good quality, but so are tons of other books.  Seriously spend time with it and you'll get better.


 What's your USCF rating?