What does your chess rating say about your overall IQ?

Yes but then, they (people of average or lower IQ who think chess is an activity reserved for "brainiacs" and is beyond their ability) DON'T play chess, do they. This referendum is pretty much confined to those who DO play chess.

I'm afraid you don't seem very good at putting arguments together. You must be able to do better than that. You once told me that your IQ was measured at 168.

The general-English definition (earliest known usage 1561) "implying intimate or necessary connection" seems to be what most here are using. The statistical sciences definition you use is not inconsistent with the proposition that great chess achievement need not pair with high IQ; so there is no reason to think that someone with an IQ of 102 cannot be one of the world's best chess players.

Still, the correlation seems to be between "lower" IQ and the opinion that high IQ and chess prowess are linked. And where did you come up with the idea that people of average intelligence "DON'T play chess"?

You misunderstand the idea of chess ability correlating positively with IQ. Also, I'm afraid that you mustn't have been able to understand the post which you wrote and I replied to. I assumed that "people of average or lower IQ who think chess is an activity reserved for "brainiacs" and is beyond their ability" don't play chess. They're your words and I had assumed that it was fundamental to your argument, such as it was, that they didn't play. You really aren't making any sense at the moment. Probably because you're arguing from a losing position.

I guess that must be another indication that high IQ scores don't correlate with all forms of intellectual achievement.

That's an incorrect definition and in any case, you shouldn't rely on a dictionary to define a word that's slightly more conceptually complex than "cat" and "dog".

It's a single instance only and on other occasions I've noticed you being quite clever so don't worry. You would do best to accept that I might be right and that you may conceivably be confused on this question only and then try to think why, perhaps.

Of course the British guy is using fancy pants words😂

A corellation is statistical ONLY and doesn't imply a connection, causal or otherwise. It's simply a statistical resemblance. Do you understand what I mean and if so, do you agree?

I know and I'm sorry. Do you think I should keep everything simple when talking to Americans?

If so, I'll try harder next time.

Just going to mention, I am terrible at chess, with my rating being 750ish. Meanwhile, I am above average, so I think this is inaccurate, as mentioned before by others. So, while there is some correlation, chess is more about a certain area of IQ, rather than the overall IQ.

My experience with chess is that 90+% of players DO think that mastery of the game is beyond their abilities.

You mean chess uses some mental aspects more than others? I doubt anyone would challenge that, if it's what you're saying. Seems right.

I would imagine a higher % than that, to be realistic. Very likely, most GMs will think the same.

It’s not that deep bro

In that case, if you can understand what's being talked about, why're you complaining?

First, that definition is from OED and has been in use throughout the English-speaking world for centuries. I realize that you prefer your own understanding to that of the world at large, but when most people use the word, they do believe it implies connectivity. The statistician's definition you prefer doesn't indicate that the relation is anything more than random chance (as you admit); so use of it to imply that world-class players necessarily have extremely high IQs is inappropriate.

That isn't what correlation means. Simple as that and if you don't believe me, ask someone else who knows what it means.

End of argument. Just accept that most people commenting on this thread who have used the word "correlation" will know what it means.

I googled and the first thing up was the Wiki article:

Correlation
 
Wikipediahttps://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Correlation
 
 
 
In statistics, correlation or dependence is any statistical relationship, whether causal or not, between two random variables or bivariate data.
 
‎Pearson correlation coefficient · ‎Cross-correlation · ‎Intraclass correlation