What does your chess rating say about your overall IQ?

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Laskersnephew

Very little

mpaetz
Optimissed wrote:

When you have a word with a technical meaning, it's best to stick with the technical meaning when it's being used in that meaning, as it is here. You sound as if you just decided to change the meaning of "correlation" because it suited your argument to do so.

Actually, the word has had exactly the meaning I ascribe to it since its introduction into the English language about 500 years ago. When I use it in that sense I am not "changing the meaning" just because a particular academic discipline has used it (since about 1890) in a technical sense within its own purview. The OP uses it in a manner that clearly proposes a causational link between the two "variables".

putshort
Just use the word “association” instead of the word “correlation” and avoid arguing ad Infinitum.
International-Grandpatzer

At the highest level in chess, one needs a very strong memory for the memorizing of countless lines and opening variations, combined with strong visualization and spatial awareness. These very same skills are often conducive to performing well on IQ tests (with exceptions), which is often why many top players have been known to possess a high IQ. Outside of the top level of chess play, I doubt there is a strong correlation, as a 1200 rated player is usually much closer to a 2200 in terms of innate ability than the 2200 is to a super GM.

Nepotamy
Faraday111 wrote:

According to Le Hoang Minh Son, this is an estimation for the correlation between your chess rating and your IQ:

*Considering you play chess 2 hours a day and do not participate in professional chess, this is the connection between the rating you gain in 1 year and your IQ, assuming that your beginning elo is 0

-From 0 to 800-1400: 90-110 IQ (average intelligence)

-From 0 to 1400-1600: 110-125 IQ (above average intelligence or smart)

-From 0 to 1600-2000: 125-135 (moderately gifted or very smart)

-From 0 to 2000+ : 135-160 (genius)

P/s: while this might not apply to everyone, it is generally acceptable.

People who don't waste time on chess: 160+ IQ

Nepotamy
MrBurger wrote:
llama_l wrote:
medelpad wrote:
#3 The test said 102 also, Hikaru said in a interview that that test was very inaccurate and that his IQ obviously is higher than 102.

What does he mean "obviously?"

I would have guessed 100 for him.

Online tests are easy... the fact that he only scored 100 on an online test...

I also saw a clip of it. He was struggling on really easy questions... which is fine, he's not a bad person or anything, I'm just saying what I saw.

Online tests are scams

There are some very good online IQ tests. That test he took was crap though.

Nepotamy
medelpad wrote:
#3 The test said 102 also, Hikaru said in a interview that that test was very inaccurate and that his IQ obviously is higher than 102.

He should take another online IQ test and actually take it seriously. I'll probably send him a link to it.

WaferRolls99

I expect that if your IQ is significantly below average, your chess playing is unlikely to be great.

But there's a huge motivational factor at play.

If you do anything two hours a day, you are likely to be better at it than the person with the world's highest IQ who has never played more than a dozen games. Much of chess, especially as played against time, is recognizing patterns and responding to them. That's what repetition does - it trains you in patterns. It introduces you to new patterns. It trains you where to expect traps and pitfalls.

MaetsNori
Faraday111 wrote:

According to Le Hoang Minh Son, this is an estimation for the correlation between your chess rating and your IQ:

*Considering you play chess 2 hours a day and do not participate in professional chess, this is the connection between the rating you gain in 1 year and your IQ, assuming that your beginning elo is 0

-From 0 to 800-1400: 90-110 IQ (average intelligence)

-From 0 to 1400-1600: 110-125 IQ (above average intelligence or smart)

-From 0 to 1600-2000: 125-135 (moderately gifted or very smart)

-From 0 to 2000+ : 135-160 (genius)

P/s: while this might not apply to everyone, it is generally acceptable.

This is complete nonsense. It's not at all how IQ is measured, nor is chess progression representative of one's IQ.

There are so many factors that contribute the speed of one's progress in chess (motivation, resources, manner of practice, level of opponents, amount of personal feedback/instruction, and so on).

And proper IQ testing involves extensive, structured methodology that goes far beyond some arbitrary metric such as, "Hey, what's your chess rating?"

To distill everything down into two components ("Two hours a day to reach your Elo after one year! This tells you your IQ!") and to claim that this has any sort of merit is ... simply ridiculous.

Dopp3lga3ng3r

After playing 15 months on chess.com with substantial number of games, my Elo is 400-500 ish. I don't read about chess, I play when in the train sometimes (with bad wifi), and sometimes more focused. My official IQ test is about 135. Now, what does that tell me about chess and IQ? In my opinion, IQ has only a minor impact on chess Elo. See also this study (although low sample size): https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289606001139

Further, sometimes I get a boost and suddenly rise about 200 points in Elo, sometimes I drop about the same number of points and I have no idea why. However, my IQ remains stable. 
In addition, consider this: More people started playing chess online in the recent years. An Elo of 500 today may not be comparable to one 10 years ago, since elo It measures how well you perform relative to the rest of the pool. The pool has changed.

magipi
Dopp3lga3ng3r wrote:
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Was there any reason to resurrect this dumb topic? It was already down in the gutter (where it belongs) for more than a year, abandoned and forgotten, and now you bring it up again. Why?

How did you find it anyway? And again, why?

SixInchSamurai

> What does your chess rating say about your overall IQ?

Nothing in general, if you are good at chess, you are just good at chess

manudude02

I remember once watching a video that included a top chess player (I want to say one of the Polgar sisters), and other people in other professions such as brain surgeons and comparing how they function in general intelligence-based activities. Anyone know what video I'm thinking of?