What is considered a good rating for certain ages like 15 years old?

When i was fifteen i was roughly 2900, but its good to aim high so go for 3000.

"I feel sorry for you because today is the most beautifull moment of your life and you'll never live it again". The wife of Petrosian said that to Kasparov after Petrosian died 

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Great post.

ya i agree

In Norway Gm is realistic for the kids that joins NTG , NTG, Norsk Toppidretts Gymnas, is a high school or college (Schoolyear 10-14) that takes 4 year in stead of 3, and focuses on a sport.  GM Aryan Tari made GM there. Johan Sebastian Christiansen does have some GM-norms. I think he  finished school this spring. GM Johan Salomon made GM ca one year after that school. Several pupils  are closing in on strong titles. All those players have been in chess since they were smaller kids and I think most of them hits GM with more than 1000 fiderated longchessgames played.

https://ntg.no/artikkel/elever-2016-17?source=38

 It is not common that GMs starts chess after they are 15, but I have seen one. I dont remember his name.

There's no such thing as a good rating for a given age.  It depends when you started playing, how serious you are, how talented you are, etc, etc.  Sergey Karjakin was a Grandmaster well before he was 13 so by that yardstick anyone above 13 might as well give up.  Realistically though your average recreational chess player could improve at almost any age.  Even a 60 year old can get better and achieve a good rating if it is something they put effort into.

you do realize that karjakin is the youngest gm of all time, right?

The chance is pretty good. They are 14 pupils now. Tor Fredrik is IM already and Johannes is very close to IM. Included Johannes they are 9 Fm, and they are 4 without titles.  I dont think the untitled ones will become GM, I am sure Tor Fredrik and Johannes will become GM. Most of the other FMs will reach IM, and maybe 2, 3 or four of them Gm before they are 22 years old.    It looks like the Gm chance  during school or in the first three years after school is more than 20%.

I can only find three classes. So I guess I was wrong about them spending four years on that school.

The Chess teacher in charge is GM Simen Agdestein.

3 of the pupils is these days playing for my club Nordstrand in  EUROPEAN CHESS CLUB CUP 2018 

http://chess-results.com/tnr373918.aspx?lan=1&art=20&flag=30&snr=22

Obviously.  Why do you think I plucked his name out of a hat rather than all the others?!

it is not a goal for anyone to achieve that, especially if you are already older than that age, as is the op. fischer got good at chess when he was 12, and then in four years became grandmaster. obviously he had talent, but he also had an insane and driving work ethic. maybe if you read most modern works on chess and work 12 hours a day perfecting your endgame you will become a gm by 19. maybe

Let's look at the top 10 players in the world, and see what age they became GMs. (source)

1. Magnus Carlsen Became GM at age 13. Stress is put on his incredible memory.

2. Fabiano Caruana Became GM at age 14, started playing at age 5. 

3. Shak Mamedyarov Became GM at age 17. 

4. Ding Liren Became GM at age 17.

5. Anish Giri Became GM at age 14, started playing at age 6. We are told that in April 2006 (age 11) he had a rating of 2114.

6. MVL Became GM at age 15. 

7. Vladimir Kramnik Became GM at age 17. 

8. Wesley So Became GM at age 15. 

9. Viswanathan Anand Became GM at age 18, IM at age 15. 

10. Levon Aronian Became GM at age 18. 



So, you're probably not going to get into the elite chess playing level at age 15. I'm the same age, and I'm probably not going to be elite either. But let's not lose hope! Mihai Suba  got the GM title at the age of 36! His junior performance was... Less than stellar, to paraphrase him in his book Dynamic Chess Strategy.

Do not let numbers get in your way. Some people are born with a predisposition towards chess, and that's great for them, but the less sung heroes are those who had to work every single step of the way and pushed themselves to 2100 and beyond. 

Here's wishing you some good chess.  

I think what Ghost meant by not realistic, is that QueenBombs chances are not realistic. The original question is how realistic is it for him to become a grandmaster by age 30. Well, it's not realistic at all, especially with such a low rating at such a late start playing the game. Even in Norway the chances are not pretty good, the chances are terrible. A lot more people win the lottery than become grandmasters.

The chances for GM are very small for late starters. In Norway there are some players that is so  good when they are small  kids that they join a chessclub. They are already above average talented. They can all reach at least IM if they do the job. A huge question is if they stay in chess competition long enough, and if they do enough work for years and years. I have two nephews that dont make it, because they retired too soon, at the age of 10 and 14.   The younger one had decided to win the national championship in his ageclass, and that tournament went bad. Discouraged he started playing football in stead. He was really good , had ca the same strenght as the one year younger Aryan Tari.

Determination is essential. Isak Sjøberg told me when he was 10 years and ca 1400 fide that he should become GM. Now he is 15, 2200 and if he starts at NTG next spring I am sure he will do do it, I guess when he is between 17 and 20 years old. 

The easiest path to GM is compete 100 fiderated games a year from the age of 6,7 or 8. Get a good trainer (need parents to hire them, but in Norway they also get some for free when attending kids national team). Of course put in a LOT of work. And top all of that with three years at NTG, followed by a full year of international competitions living on money from parents.

hi

People need to learn to have realistic and/or intermediate goals.  There's a hierarchy of Master titles.  Only IMs should be looking to the GM title as an ambition.  For anyone else it should be the next rung on the ladder, whatever that may be.

First you have to be a strong talent ,

and your parents must be wealthy enough and back you up,

then you should start in a chessclass in a chessclub at the age of  6, 7 or 8.

Then you shal train and play hard for almost a decade,

Then you shal go to a chess-sport-school like NTG for 3 years,

Then you shal get your parents to pay for travelling and competing a full year all over the world.

And after that the chances of Gm might be there.

The way to Gm is very long and heavy, most travellers dont go all the way.