What is the point of premove if you can't move that fast in proper chess?

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aviation18

What is the point of premove if you can't move that fast in proper chess? This is a question I have always wondered.

vsx267

I don’t think there really is a point. I think it’s just a way of cheating during online chess because in face-to-face chess, there is no premove  option available.

sndeww

because online is not over-the-board chess. 

it does not have to be exactly the same. 

Weiweiuk2002

i wonder why you lose00:01 seconds when you premove

sndeww

also, in otb chess, sometimes you have to be super fast physically. Premoves even the playing ground. Or, if it doesn't, it is no different from actual otb.

aviation18

Thanks everyone

sndeww
crick2 hat geschrieben:

i know but it is also a form of cheating

 

moving fast is a form of cheating then.

sndeww
crick2 hat geschrieben:

if someone uses premoves and the other doesnt in a 10 sec game the first person wins

 

why would you play 10sec without premoves? you would also not play 10sec in over the board. Therefore, 10sec is an exclusive to online chess, which has premoves, which makes 10sec a viable time control.

You have no business playing hyperbullet if you don't have premoves.

sndeww

but nothing, really.

if you're playing otb blitz chess, then you're moving as fast as you can. Some people (like if you're a child) cannot physically move as fast. Therefore they are at a disadvantage. You don't see anyone complaining about how that's unfair.

santa777x

hi

aviation18

Hi everyone

vsx267

crick2 I agree with you. I think premove is distinctly unfair.

Miniongolf

most otb tournaments are at a relatively slow speed anyways (excluding blitz tournaments)

sndeww
Miniongolf hat geschrieben:

most otb tournaments are at a relatively slow speed anyways (excluding blitz tournaments)

right. But if you're playing rapid online, you don't really need premoves. 

sndeww
B1ZMARK hat geschrieben:
Miniongolf hat geschrieben:

most otb tournaments are at a relatively slow speed anyways (excluding blitz tournaments)

right. But if you're playing rapid online, you don't really need premoves. 

Not like that stops me from premoving the first five moves in 10min rapid but...

sndeww
HushedFalconSr hat geschrieben:

crick2 I agree with you. I think premove is distinctly unfair.

How is it unfair? if anything, it is more fair.

Martin_Stahl
Weiweiuk2002 wrote:

i wonder why you lose00:01 seconds when you premove

 

https://www.chess.com/blog/DanielRensch/bullet-chess-philosophy

aviation18

Yes my opponents often use premove when I don't. I would say you don't need premove in games over 30 seconds.

sndeww
aviation18 hat geschrieben:

Yes my opponents often use premove when I don't. I would say you don't need premove in games over 30 seconds.

why don't you use premove?

sndeww
crick2 hat geschrieben:

no i would say there is no point of premoves in games above 1 minute

 

disagree. 3min and 5min require premoves.