what is your chess.com rating compared to your Lichess rating?

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@CooloutAC Cool it with the stupid accusations. Present your points and be nice. Posting a game that identifies the player in a manner that intimates the player used help is a violation of the TOS. Even in the Cheater’s Forum, names must be removed when such games are posted.

The site’s mods are letting you get away with a great many violations, but they crack down when I do them.

As for your game, it does look like two 800s, as you say. Good job finding the tactics!

I did a Lichess study on this game, which was played against a 1900 rapid rated player. It is stunning how often the position occurs. 383 games with my oppponent’s 6…Bh5.

This is a screenshot of the Lichess database. Black faces several mate threats. 

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Take it a move further and you find that several players over 2000 have made the same moves as my 1900 opponent.

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Ziryab wrote:

The site’s mods are letting you get away with a great many violations, but they crack down when I do them.

Just think of it this way... if you see 100 new posts by coolout in the last hour, it takes a lot of... uh... lobotomy to be able to read them. Better to skip as much as possible.

But if you see Ziryab posted a lot, it'd be easy to read them.

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@CooloutAC Even a compliment goes past you. You need to stop behaving like a 12 year old who’s been put on restriction from video games.

Present your views without attacking people who disagree. It is fine to attack their ideas, if you find them wanting, but use evidence and argument. You might ind that other people here have more respect for you if you could behave like an adult.

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1100 chesscom 1770 lichess
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Vertwitch wrote:
1100 chesscom 1770 lichess

Why did you just lie about your chess.com rating lol

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Ziryab wrote:

Take it a move further and you find that several players over 2000 have made the same moves as my 1900 opponent.

5... Bg4 is one of those "natural-looking" moves that players tend to make, on autopilot, without really using their head.

They're just thinking "let's get my bishop out before playing e6", without even bothering to look a move further.

Ne5! is a beautiful way to punish it. (Bxf7! would also be winning, of course, but isn't nearly as pretty as Ne5).

Well played.

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IronSteam1 wrote:
Ziryab wrote:

Take it a move further and you find that several players over 2000 have made the same moves as my 1900 opponent.

 

5... Bg4 is one of those "natural-looking" moves that players tend to make, on autopilot, without really using their head.

They're just thinking "let's get my bishop out before playing e6", without even bothering to look a move further.

Ne5! is a beautiful way to punish it. (Bxf7! would also be winning, of course, but isn't nearly as pretty as Ne5).

Well played.

 

Thanks

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Lichess, 1400+

Chess.com, 600-700

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IronSteam1 wrote:
Ziryab wrote:

Take it a move further and you find that several players over 2000 have made the same moves as my 1900 opponent.

 

5... Bg4 is one of those "natural-looking" moves that players tend to make, on autopilot, without really using their head.

They're just thinking "let's get my bishop out before playing e6", without even bothering to look a move further.

Ne5! is a beautiful way to punish it. (Bxf7! would also be winning, of course, but isn't nearly as pretty as Ne5).

Well played.

This evidence of the weakness of a few players is very poor. On LiChess, almost everyone found the mate. The few examples of players missing the mate can almost all be explained by premove rather than playing strength.

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SmyslovFan wrote:
IronSteam1 wrote:
Ziryab wrote:

Take it a move further and you find that several players over 2000 have made the same moves as my 1900 opponent.

 

5... Bg4 is one of those "natural-looking" moves that players tend to make, on autopilot, without really using their head.

They're just thinking "let's get my bishop out before playing e6", without even bothering to look a move further.

Ne5! is a beautiful way to punish it. (Bxf7! would also be winning, of course, but isn't nearly as pretty as Ne5).

Well played.

This evidence of the weakness of a few players is very poor. On LiChess, almost everyone found the mate. The few examples of players missing the mate can almost all be explained by premove rather than playing strength.

 

The point was about high rated players walking into the mate through bad play. Of course, we’ve all played egregiously bad chess at fast time controls.

But the hundreds of instances of this position occurring among millions of games include perhaps a dozen players over 1600 losing in such a manner.

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Again, take a look at the time controls, go to the games, and see how much time was spent on these moves.

 

Your example only proves that even strong players occasionally lose due to premove.

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SmyslovFan wrote:

Again, take a look at the time controls, go to the games, and see how much time was spent on these moves.

 

Your example only proves that even strong players occasionally lose due to premove.

 

Agreed

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Ziryab wrote:
SmyslovFan wrote:

Again, take a look at the time controls, go to the games, and see how much time was spent on these moves.

 

Your example only proves that even strong players occasionally lose due to premove.

 

Agreed

Interestingly enough, Alexandra Botez (WFM) played this exact opening line against Greg Shahade (IM).

Both players missed it, completely unaware.

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This is a great graph comparing this website ratins with lichess ratings and with OTB ratings. I have been playing chess on both websites for 3 years, I have checked ratings of most of my opponents in order to see the relation between their blitz and rapid rating and this website has data which is 100% inline with my 3 years of experience.
https://www.chessratingcomparison.com/graphs 

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This is a great graph comparing this website ratins with lichess ratings and with OTB ratings. I have been playing chess on both websites for 3 years, I have checked ratings of most of my opponents in order to see the relation between their blitz and rapid rating and this website has data which is 100% inline with my 3 years of experience.
https://www.chessratingcomparison.com/graphs 

I'm like 70% confident I ran into you on Quora yesterday. Was it you?

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1550 here and 1800 lichess

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SpacePodz wrote:
I have heard people say that they think lichess ratings are more inflated than chess.com ratings and vice versa. I wanted to finally learn which site is more inflated. So, what is your chess.com and lichess ratings?

Here are graphs to compare both websites. https://www.chessratingcomparison.com/graphs

The person who drew the line didn't draw it correctly but you still see the correct data points. Based on the points that I saw on that website for comparing lichess rapid vs chess.com rapid I came up with 2 simplified formulas for converting one rating into the other. Take your chess.com rapid rating and multiply it by 6/7 and then add 530. That's approximately your lichess rapid rating. If you have a lichess rapid rating and you want to convert it to chess.com rapid rating do the following. Take your lichess rapid rating and multiply it by 7/6 and then subtract 620. That's your chess.com rapid rating.

 

lichess_rapid = chesscom_rapid * 6/7 + 530

chesscom_rapid = lichess_rapid * 7/6 - 620

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maxkho2 wrote:
dude0812 wrote:

This is a great graph comparing this website ratins with lichess ratings and with OTB ratings. I have been playing chess on both websites for 3 years, I have checked ratings of most of my opponents in order to see the relation between their blitz and rapid rating and this website has data which is 100% inline with my 3 years of experience.
https://www.chessratingcomparison.com/graphs 

I'm like 70% confident I ran into you on Quora yesterday. Was it you?

Maybe, I do sometimes talk about chess on quora, can you give me the link of the answer to which this comment reminded you of?