He won, so I guess that was the reason. Well, I just won't ever challenge him again.
What should I do if someone is a bad sport?
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Ok, this has been running for a while & the game in question is now over, so what can Gpod take from it? To me it's all about respect for your opponent. Refusing to resign is not always a sign of disrespect, my daughter has been instructed to play out to Mate while she is learning. When she understands the game more she can resign when there is nothing more to learn from the game in progress.
She is also being taught basic Chess ettiquette like if someone offers a draw to say something like “I'd like to play a few more moves just to be sure” if she doesn't want to accept the draw.
There are many reasons not to resign, some good others not so good. One that has always fascinated me is the Game of the Century, Byrne v Fischer 1956. Byrne does not resign but plays it out to Mate. Is he showing disrespect to 13 year old Bobby Fischer? I don't think so, I think Byrne realized that something special was happening & decided to give us a complete game all the way to Checkmate & I'm glad he did. I've used that game many times when instructing young players. Byrne could have resigned at move 25 purely from material loss & again at move 33 when it becomes a forced Mate but he didn't & now when we review the game it is complete.
Gpod elected not to resign when it was Mate in 2, personally I don't have a problem with that, its only 2 moves & while some may consider it petty not to resign it does not justify abuse in response .... just play the 2 moves & its done.
A situation where there is an overwhelming material loss with no positional compensation is a different matter, in this case it can be considered polite to resign & move on, maybe a rematch if both players want it. I should qualify here that experience & rating have an influence. Many times I have seen an inexperienced player stumble into a stalemate position with an overwhelming material advantage & allow his opponent a draw. I even did it myself once in a Blitz match ... too many pieces, too little time!
So for me the bottom line is there is no situation where refusal to resign justifies an abusive response. It may be annoying but it is just a game & we are supposed to enjoy it. The Internet over the last 20 years has spawned a new culture, people hide behind anonymity & their manners go out the window with that anonymity but there is no need to sink to their level.
Abusive behavior spawns more abuse, its a vicious circle, best left alone or ignored. So my advice for Gpod is look at each individual situation & make a judgment based on your own sense of respect & manners. If you get abused block & ignore as you did. Reporting the incident should be reserved for extreme cases such as the incident I previously posted.
Steve922477 wrote:
@42 you have some good points there and I'd support them. However, would you still advise her to carry on a 5-day-per-move and a 7-day-per-move (and others) when she is two Queens down? Why not resign them and start up worthwhile game in their places.
If she could tell me why she should resign and understood then yes I would suggest resigning - but if she didn't understand why she should resign - I mean really understand that a win is not possible ( like many 14 yr olds who think they can still win <she is 14>) then I would suggest she play on and learn what an unwinnable position looks like so she would know when to resign in the future :)
@bongcloudftw
I haven't looked at the game, maybe his opponent had done as you said but my point still remains, 2 more moves & its done, no need for abusive behavior, just play the 2 moves & take the win. Gpod has said he likes to play games out & is obviously on a learning curve I'm not going to judge him for that.
Gpod has said he likes to play games out & is obviously on a learning curve I'm not going to judge him for that.
In that case, I'll judge him for it instead. Not resigning in hopeless situations is dispicable. In my opinion, you are teaching your daughter to be a bad person. Before anyone gets bent out of shape about that, understand that it is not an indictment of anyones morals, motives or intentions, just introducing a possibilty that may have been unwittingly overlooked. Namely, what if she extends that kind of thinking to other aspects of life? Burglers hold out for an unlocked window. Pickpockets hold out for the easily distracted. Fraudsters hold out for catching someone mentally or emotionally enfeebled. In short, people who go through life counting on the lapses of others tend to be criminals and other unsavory types. No more on that.
We've heard it said that there is no rule against not resigning. Untrue. The same rules apply that should keep you from taking a dump in the street or having sex with a dead animal. No those things don't get explicit treatment under the rules of chess as does en passant or castling. They aren't even explicitly treated in civil or criminal codes. When such things occur they are censured as "disorderly conduct" Refusal to resign is one type of chess related disorderly conduct.
Hey! this is my twin who was asking for support and for help deciding an issue that he trusted all of you to be kind to. I know that by saying this I am most likely to be ridiculed, but better me than him. Please don't say that Gpod is spiteful, ignorant or anything else. I applaud you who have been supportive! 
Not resigning in hopeless situations is dispicable. In my opinion, you are teaching your daughter to be a bad person.
Not resigning in chess is not going to make you a bad person. It. is. a. game. and it is not dispicable.
Steve922477 do not disrepect my twin. he is not a bad person, and is one of the best players at our school. please do not go being rude to other player who are (most likely) younger than you are. I have half a mind to challenge you. ok, just let me calm down, sorry for whoever is looking at this and shaking their head.
cleocamy wrote:
Gpod has said he likes to play games out & is obviously on a learning curve I'm not going to judge him for that.
In that case, I'll judge him for it instead. Not resigning in hopeless situations is dispicable. In my opinion, you are teaching your daughter to be a bad person. Before anyone gets bent out of shape about that, understand that it is not an indictment of anyones morals, motives or intentions, just introducing a possibilty that may have been unwittingly overlooked. Namely, what if she extends that kind of thinking to other aspects of life? Burglers hold out for an unlocked window. Pickpockets hold out for the easily distracted. Fraudsters hold out for catching someone mentally or emotionally enfeebled. In short, people who go through life counting on the lapses of others tend to be criminals and other unsavory types. No more on that.
We've heard it said that there is no rule against not resigning. Untrue. The same rules apply that should keep you from taking a dump in the street or having sex with a dead animal. No those things don't get explicit treatment under the rules of chess as does en passant or castling. They aren't even explicitly treated in civil or criminal codes. When such things occur they are censured as "disorderly conduct" Refusal to resign is one type of chess related disorderly conduct.
My daughter? I am 11 years old? If you are talking about someone else then I'm ok with that, but it's only a game! You might find an instructive mating pattern or endgame. Comparing that to various major crimes is way out of hand.
Thats what I thought, but anyway I do agree with you that the crime refenences was unnecessary. He said before the comment that he would judge me then said the daughter schpiel...
cleocamy wrote:
Gpod has said he likes to play games out & is obviously on a learning curve I'm not going to judge him for that.
In that case, I'll judge him for it instead. Not resigning in hopeless situations is dispicable. In my opinion, you are teaching your daughter to be a bad person. Before anyone gets bent out of shape about that, understand that it is not an indictment of anyones morals, motives or intentions, just introducing a possibilty that may have been unwittingly overlooked. Namely, what if she extends that kind of thinking to other aspects of life? Burglers hold out for an unlocked window. Pickpockets hold out for the easily distracted. Fraudsters hold out for catching someone mentally or emotionally enfeebled. In short, people who go through life counting on the lapses of others tend to be criminals and other unsavory types. No more on that.
We've heard it said that there is no rule against not resigning. Untrue. The same rules apply that should keep you from taking a dump in the street or having sex with a dead animal. No those things don't get explicit treatment under the rules of chess as does en passant or castling. They aren't even explicitly treated in civil or criminal codes. When such things occur they are censured as "disorderly conduct" Refusal to resign is one type of chess related disorderly conduct.
that was really hilarious
not resigning is NOT despicable, imo the line is subjectively drawn at intentionally stalling (ie letting the clock run out one move away from mate).
I agree.
Maybe, but I'm not sure considering the tone... but there is always a chance.
How were we idiotic?
I hope he isn't serious... and I agree that he should have just mated me and moved on...
QueenTakesKnightOOPS wrote:
Ok, this has been running for a while & the game in question is now over, so what can Gpod take from it? To me it's all about respect for your opponent. ...................................................................................................
The Internet over the last 20 years has spawned a new culture, people hide behind anonymity & their manners go out the window with that anonymity but there is no need to sink to their level. ...................................................................................................
If you get abused block & ignore as you did. Reporting the incident should be reserved for extreme cases such as the incident I previously posted.
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I agree with your statement that the fragment of "The Internet over the last 20 years has spawned a new culture, people hide behind anonymity and their manners go out the window with that anonymity" For that, let us suggest to the managers of this site to create a policy which provides its own credit point for players who are willing to use the original ID. What kind of credit that point? Let's discuss this further.
Ronald_Aprianto wrote:
QueenTakesKnightOOPS wrote:
Ok, this has been running for a while & the game in question is now over, so what can Gpod take from it? To me it's all about respect for your opponent. ................................................................................................................... The Internet over the last 20 years has spawned a new culture, people hide behind anonymity & their manners go out the window with that anonymity but there is no need to sink to their level. ...................................................................................................................... If you get abused block & ignore as you did. Reporting the incident should be reserved for extreme cases such as the incident I previously posted.
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I agree with your statement that the fragment of "The Internet over the last 20 years has spawned a new culture, people hide behind anonymity and their manners go out the window with that anonymity" For that, let us suggest to the managers of this site to create a policy which provides its own credit point for players who are willing to use the original ID. What kind of credit that point? Let's discuss this further.
What do you mean by original ID? I do agree that you can hide and do whataver you want behind the username, and I also agree that we should do something about it.
Gpod wrote:
What do you mean by original ID? I do agree that you can hide and do whataver you want behind the username, and I also agree that we should do something about it.
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An original ID, if eligible:
1. Avatar should be a personal photo of the owner;
2. Name of account holder must use the real name instead of an alias or a pseudonym
3. The user account is connected to at least one social networking site account is also wearing his original ID
4. etc....................
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Please, add other requirements!
I told you that he decided to chekmate me, so its over.