What was Bobby Fisher's "Worst" Loss?

TornadoChaser

Did he have any?

rooperi
Winnie_Pooh

I like this one Laughing

 



bronsteinitz

His country

TornadoChaser
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blueemu

Fischer's worst loss? Losing his Queen to Spassky, and then continuing to play on for several moves instead of resigning? That was Game 11, no?

nborota

His Mind!

MrEdCollins

If you don't count simuls, and if you consider "worst loss" to be "shortest loss" (which is not the same thing, I know) then this 23 move loss to Geller in 1967, as WHITE, might qualify:

I think Fischer was lost after 21.Qf4.  Nice for us mere mortals to know that even GMs make mistakes.  Laughing

TornadoChaser
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TornadoChaser
MrEdCollins wrote:

If you don't count simuls, and if you consider "worst loss" to be "shortest loss" (which is not the same thing, I know) then this 23 move loss to Geller in 1967, as WHITE, might qualify:

 

I think Fischer was lost after 21.Qf4.  Nice for us mere mortals to know that even GMs make mistakes. 

Thanks for the post! I Apologize for that, as I should have rolled a bit of specificity into the post before letting it go Smile

fabelhaft
MrEdCollins wrote:

If you don't count simuls, and if you consider "worst loss" to be "shortest loss" (which is not the same thing, I know) then this 23 move loss to Geller in 1967, as WHITE, might qualify

The funny thing is that he lost twice with white against the same opponent the same year, in 23-25 moves, the second game being:

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1044264

gaereagdag

The loss of his sanity, mind and mental composure. Closely followed by the loss of his facial clealiness inlater years as he looked like a wookie.

747control

His lost of Identity, self worth and reality. He allowed chess to consume him. In America he was considered a genious and attracted more people to learn and play the game of chess. Wanting to live in a castle that resembled a rook and making disparaging remarks about a race of people clouded his judgement. Ultimately desiring to play in a tournament that would cause him to be considered less than a role model due to U.S.A. sanctions being placed on a country. Fisher's worst lost would be taking the most gratifying and intriguing game ever invented to serious and losing the support of his country.  

TornadoChaser

These posts are fascinating -- I get the feeling that a subtle Sealed point is being made: Bobby Fischer's worst loss wasn't necessarily "on" the chessboard at all..

goldendog
yeres30 wrote:

  The return match clause was worst than Fischer 9-9 rule because what it meant that for anyone to remain World Chess Champion, that person must defeat Karpov twice. 

fixed that for you, left other parts alone.

eugene_p_needlemeyer

Life.

fabelhaft
yeres30 wrote:

Russian propaganda caused people to complain about Fischer's 9-9 rule

Common sense rather than Russian propaganda.

fabelhaft
yeres30 wrote:
fabelhaft wrote:
yeres30 wrote:

Russian propaganda caused people to complain about Fischer's 9-9 rule

Common sense rather than Russian propaganda.

 From a scale of 1-10, what do you think is the difficulty rating under the 12-12 rule and what is that with the 9-9 rule. How does the 12-12 and 9-9 rule compare with the automatic return match clause?

The 12-12 rule was in use when Fischer was the challenger and was due to continue to be in use when he was Champion, that seems fair to me. Changing the rules after you win the title so the challenger has to win 10-8 seems less fair. Spassky didn't have a rematch clause when he played Fischer.

Icecream4crow

The world championship

IAMBBW

Yes and he NVR Lost any game