Dirty_Sandbagger wrote: Kramnik also played the worst blunder of ANY world champion, ever.
Kramnik, did beat Kasparov in a match. He can't be that bad and was once 2800 Elo.
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Dirty_Sandbagger wrote:
Kramnik also played the worst blunder of ANY world champion, ever.
Well, we can't know that. If we're going to count unrated exhibition games then who knows how many private blunders there have been. Kramnik just happens to have made one of the most well known blunders.
Well, overlooking mate in one while being the world champion was unknown prior to him.
And what we don't know about private games works both ways: maybe it was a regular habit of Kramnik and he only got lucky it didn't happen to him publicly more then once 
Haha, I guess that's true.
richie_and_oprah wrote:
Justs99171 wrote:
Quite a few people here have lost all credibility. There isn't much to discuss. Tyson was heavy weight champion of the world and united three belts, but supposedly he didn't have any skills and got by on intimidation. Knocking someone out apparently doesn't require skill and is a form of intimidation.
Tyson would have destroyed Ali.
Anyone that has sat ringside to watch both of them fight in their prime knows this.
I could not disagree more..
..Think back to Marvin Hagler versus Sugar Ray Leonard.
Eveybody and their mother thought that the Monster that was Marvelous Marvin would put Mr. Leonard into the nearest A&E.
We all know what happened...The Boxer made The Brawler look foolish and humiliated.
Ali in his prime beat the Monster known as Sonny Liston, and Liston was a fiercer fighter than Tyson.
The Mega Monster known as George Foreman would have punched Tyson out the ring, and Ali beat Foreman when He was past his prime.
Ali in his prime would have danced and jabbed Tyson to distraction until Tyson tired himself out, setting himself up to be knocked out.
eciruam wrote:
richie_and_oprah wrote:
Justs99171 wrote:
Quite a few people here have lost all credibility. There isn't much to discuss. Tyson was heavy weight champion of the world and united three belts, but supposedly he didn't have any skills and got by on intimidation. Knocking someone out apparently doesn't require skill and is a form of intimidation.
Tyson would have destroyed Ali.
Anyone that has sat ringside to watch both of them fight in their prime knows this.
I could not disagree more..
..Think back to Marvin Hagler versus Sugar Ray Leonard.
Eveybody and their mother thought that the Monster that was Marvelous Marvin would put Mr. Leonard into the nearest A&E.
That was a farce of a fight. Hagler won.
Ever heard of a book that was then this is now.
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How are we to know that. One should never deal in what cases .... leave that up to the computers. Live in the present and remember the past and be hopeful of the future. Else your mind is going to become conflicted.
How did Hagler win ? On points ? He only punched Leonard about three times.
eciruam wrote:
How did Hagler win ? On points ? He only punched Leonard about three times.
His morgage payment was due in 2 hrs.
royalbishop wrote:
eciruam wrote:
How did Hagler win ? On points ? He only punched Leonard about three times.
His morgage payment was due in 2 hrs.
Your medication is due any minute.
eciruam wrote:
royalbishop wrote:
eciruam wrote:
How did Hagler win ? On points ? He only punched Leonard about three times.
His morgage payment was due in 2 hrs.
Your medication is due any minute.
Hey he to Western Union the money else they were coming for the house. Come on it was motivated by money. They train for months now way they go down that easy.
H-O-W D-I-D H-A-G-L-E-R W-I-N ? !!
Maybe he watched the second fight?
aggressivesociopath wrote:
Maybe he watched the second fight?
What second fight ?.. Hagler retired after his "fight" with Leonard.
eciruam wrote:
aggressivesociopath wrote:
Maybe he watched the second fight?
What second fight ?.. Hagler retired after his "fight" with Leonard.
Sounds like he had retired already but not made it official. Which brings me back to my point. He saw one last payday.
I was thinking of Hearns. I am not old enough to have watched any of this stuff when it happened.
Speaking of which, I am off to watch the "war" on youtube.
Kramnik also played the worst blunder of ANY world champion, ever.