Whats a "great find" move?

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ChesswithNickolay wrote:

No lol it is a move that the engine did not see, or did not see early enough.

I found a lot of instances where the great move is taking the obvious queen and stockfish recommends it while still calculates it as a great move. I think a great move satisfies ONE of two conditions of a brilliant move, being the only winning move in the position. The other condition for a brilliant move that isn't satisfied is the engine being able to find it (the engine is able to find it), and it being winning at a certain depth. It's like the critical move in the old analysis. That is my assumption and thoughts.

Orang_Indonesia_1

MrM0rpheus

I believe it is the only move that gains a large advantage although there are other moves which still have an advantage.

assassin3752

bro why is everyone keep bumping this thread smh

tactichunter9602

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FakeScientist8000 wrote:

 

Brilliant moves are moves that are so good that the computer did not find, but were still better than their best move that they could calculate. Great finds/moves are lesser than brilliant moves, because the computer likely saw them, but yet still believed another move was better.

 

(NOTE THIS IS OUDATED! NOW) (This analysis the old brilliant move system) 

(BTW CAPS in this note are emphasis not shouting) Yes but no. Brilliant moves fall under two major conditions other than the computer didn't see it. That is the short version. A brilliant move is describe as the following conditions. 1. The computer originally (during the game) saw another move as better in the current position (EVERY MOVE on the board is evaluated at a certain depth (moves in advanced), but when a move is selected by the player, the computer evaluates/focuses on that move directly and evaluates it even further. In rare cases it finds out that this move is better with perfect play thus satisfying ONE condition of a brilliant move. 2. The second condition is the same one that satisfies the same checkbox for a great move as well. A great move is NOT "being one where the computer half saw it" a computer can't half see something. A great move IS THE BEST MOVE AND IS EQUAL TO THE BEST MOVE NOT BETTER in a given position, but it's the ONLY winning move in the position. It's like the critical move in the old analysis (game changing). In conclusion, brilliant moves need both the great move condition (being the only winning/drawing (drawing from a lost position) move in a position while also being a move the computer "didn't see" (DIDN'T SEE IT MEANS IT SAW IT but didn't evaluate as the best originally until after the move was played). Thanks for reading. Let me know if anyone has any questions.

Brilliant Move Condition:

1. Only winning move/ drawing from a losing position in a given position

2. Being the a move that isn't evaluated as the best by the computer at a given position until after the move is played and re-evaluated

 

Great Move Condition

1. Only winning move/ drawing from a losing position in a given position (taking the free queen for example)

 

MisterWindUpBird

Imagine the poor engine analysing this... no, that's not it, Ohh, even worse, uggh! Why on earth?