what's the main difference between a 1300 and a 1800 player?

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Ranx0r0x
scandium wrote:
phaneron0 wrote:

This is why coaches tell their students to open up the position and play tactically against stronger opponents, as opposed to trying to play positionally and getting crushed by sheer experience.

 

That sentence kinda doesn't make sense.

 

Coaches recommend seeking out stronger opponents because you will learn more from their play than you will from one of equal or lower rating.

 

Coaches recommend playing for open positions because its easier to hang material or lose to simple tactical shots than it is in closed positions; the idea is to encourage you to learn elementary tactics and the importance of safety through experience and post-game analysis.

 

I think you are mixing two ideas together to make a soup that doesn't quite smell right.

I agree. The open game is going to involve more tactical themes like forks, skewers, X-rays, etc. than a closed or semi-open game will.  That doesn't mean it's less complicated just that the open game has straightforward tactical themes related to control of open files, king hunts and piece play.

The closed games requires more understanding of pawn structures and breaks, bad bishops, the nature of doubled, backward and isolated pawns and other nuances. Eventually a closed position is going to open up and turn into a semi-open or open game.  Being able to handle the open game is then going to be critical.

It also makes sense for a student to know what open game they want to get into when the position opens. Otherwise they are just trading pawns and breaking the position open only to find out they don't have control of the important things in an open position.

DjonniDerevnja

I think a crucial point in my games are the breaks, when it opens up.

And I think the main difference between 1300 and 1800 is houndreds or thousands of games, and a lot  time spent on improving.

I was 1330 online in january , and am planning to get myself 1800 for christmas, and in this period of time I might have 700 onlinegames, 200 blitz, 50 OTB-rapid, 20-30 OTB longchess, 10 hours with a GM, and a lot videolooking, analyzing, help from friends, and more.

That sounds like an unrealistic leap in a year, but I have some background. I did compete 37 years ago. 

wartune_kartikeya

One thing which 1300 players don't have is tactical vision( talking about just classical here), I think all 1300s should solve tactical puzzles as their main problem is netting material too often

SILVERBUG

500

Snowcat14

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Kasporov_Jr

if your not above 1800, please stop making suggestions because no one cares about your irrelevant opinion. 

 

 

1800's are just intellectually superior , quicker thinkers, and better at all aspects in life

Snowcat14

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DjonniDerevnja
Kasporov_Jr wrote:

if your not above 1800, please stop making suggestions because no one cares about your irrelevant opinion. 

 

 

1800's are just intellectually superior , quicker thinkers, and better at all aspects in life

Cool, in Christmas I will become intellectual superior, quicker thinker, and better in all aspects in life compared to early this winter!  :)

 

I am smiling, I am smiling,  I am smiling, ..

Radical_Drift
Kasporov_Jr wrote:

if your not above 1800, please stop making suggestions because no one cares about your irrelevant opinion. 

 

 

1800's are just intellectually superior , quicker thinkers, and better at all aspects in life

Maybe I was a bit harsh with my previous post. I just want you to understand that being 1800 doesn't give you the right to ahem *attempt* to shut those up who aren't there yet. Your elitism is not appreciated. 

phaneron0
Kasporov_Jr wrote:

if your not above 1800, please stop making suggestions because no one cares about your irrelevant opinion. 

 

 

1800's are just intellectually superior , quicker thinkers, and better at all aspects in life

You're* ^.^

nobodyreally
Kasporov_Jr wrote:

if your not above 1800, please stop making suggestions because no one cares about your irrelevant opinion. 

 

 

1800's are just intellectually superior , quicker thinkers, and better at all aspects in life

Like I am completely superior to you in all aspects of life, you little amateur troll.

Is that the point you were making?

Prudentia
nobodyreally a écrit :
Kasporov_Jr wrote:

if your not above 1800, please stop making suggestions because no one cares about your irrelevant opinion. 

 

 

1800's are just intellectually superior , quicker thinkers, and better at all aspects in life

Like I am completely superior to you in all aspects of life, you little amateur troll.

Is that the point you were making?

LOL!

RonaldJosephCote

                   Kasparov; Contrary to popular belief,There are some 1800's who can't play drums worth a dam.

chessmaster_87

erik you get the fuck off my case. or im going to show you what your brains look like

Ziryab
Swaggaton wrote:

The 1800 rated player has more luck

This assertions sums up my experience a little too well. After I hit 1800, opponents started resigning drawn positions.

noMore_games

call 911 this is not a fucking game.

Ziryab
nobodyreally wrote:
Kasporov_Jr wrote:

if your not above 1800, please stop making suggestions because no one cares about your irrelevant opinion. 

 

 

1800's are just intellectually superior , quicker thinkers, and better at all aspects in life

Like I am completely superior to you in all aspects of life, you little amateur troll.

Is that the point you were making?

Of course you are. You have an M next to your name. You are a member of the pantheon of higher beings.

Kasporov_Jr
nobodyreally wrote:
Kasporov_Jr wrote:

if your not above 1800, please stop making suggestions because no one cares about your irrelevant opinion. 

 

 

1800's are just intellectually superior , quicker thinkers, and better at all aspects in life

Like I am completely superior to you in all aspects of life, you little amateur troll.

Is that the point you were making?

thread was about 1300's vs 1800's not 2000's stupid idiot. Obviously the skill gap will be higher between 1300 ( standard noob rating) thru 1800 ( experianced good player) than 2000+ ( very experianced good player)

Akatsuki64

500 points. 

Watas_Capas
Akatsuki64 wrote:

500 points. 

Lol! Tongue Out