What's the relation between chess and math? - Chess Forums - Page 10

JaneBellamy · 2012-10-06T15:45:11-07:00

I heard a lot of people saying that chess is math, that people that like chess also like math... But how exactly do they relate to each other?

kartipower

Mar 21, 2019

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#181

cant say

kindaspongey

Mar 21, 2019

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#182

"... they don't have to separate the math out, it's mixed in allover natural like. All chess is geometry mate all geometry is math, get over it." - wollyhood

"... Remember seeing the proof of the area of a triangle?" - kindaspongey

pdve wrote:

... You just make a parallelogram out of it and then divide by half. If you need proof of area of parallelogram then you just cut out two triangles and make a rectangle out of it. If you need proof of area of rectangle then idk, look up calculus.

See things like that commonly "mixed in" with chess instruction?

pdve

Mar 21, 2019

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#183

kindaspongey wrote:

"... they don't have to separate the math out, it's mixed in allover natural like. All chess is geometry mate all geometry is math, get over it." - wollyhood

"... Remember seeing the proof of the area of a triangle?" - kindaspongey

pdve wrote:

... You just make a parallelogram out of it and then divide by half. If you need proof of area of parallelogram then you just cut out two triangles and make a rectangle out of it. If you need proof of area of rectangle then idk, look up calculus.

See things like that commonly "mixed in" with chess instruction?

haha .. ive known some people who could play sensational chess but couldn't solve a math problem and vice versa.

wollyhood

Mar 21, 2019

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#184

kindaspongey wrote:

"... Would nearly all of a geometry textbook be 'in credibly specific' and 'never needed in chess'?" - kindaspongey

wollyhood wrote:

i don't recall ever having a geometry textbook. We had very good teachers that prepared the lessons manually.

Remember seeing the proof of the area of a triangle?

Since when did triangle area require a proof?

8 hrs ago#191

"... they don't have to separate the math out, it's mixed in allover natural like. All chess is geometry mate all geometry is math, get over it." - wollyhood

"... Remember seeing the proof of the area of a triangle?" - kindaspongey

pdve wrote:

... You just make a parallelogram out of it and then divide by half. If you need proof of area of parallelogram then you just cut out two triangles and make a rectangle out of it. If you need proof of area of rectangle then idk, look up calculus.

See things like that commonly "mixed in" with chess instruction?

look spongey, just because you drag out a super basic geometry formula is completely redundant. There is Math inside chess even if you were bad at math / pray for math to be removed from life, whatever your beef is with math.

You can't change that fact, and you are just starting to sound like an old dog panting in the wind

Colin20G

Mar 21, 2019

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#185

wollyhood wrote:

Since when did triangle area require a proof?

Since everything we know in maths is known because of proofs.

kindaspongey

Mar 21, 2019

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#186

"... they don't have to separate the math out, it's mixed in allover natural like. All chess is geometry mate all geometry is math, get over it." - wollyhood

"... Ever seen the proof of the a^2 + b^2 = c^2 thing? See things like that commonly 'mixed in' with chess instruction?" - kindaspongey

"why would you, pythagoras's theorem is an in credibly specific triangulation tool for finding a side length, something that is never needed in chess." - wollyhood

wollyhood wrote:

kindaspongey wrote:

"... Would nearly all of a geometry textbook be 'in credibly specific' and 'never needed in chess'?" - kindaspongey

wollyhood wrote:

i don't recall ever having a geometry textbook. We had very good teachers that prepared the lessons manually.

Remember seeing the proof of the area of a triangle?

Since when did triangle area require a proof? ...

Perhaps, if you look in a geometry textbook, you will get some idea about the degree to which the subject is concerned with proof.

kindaspongey

Mar 21, 2019

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#187

wollyhood

… just because you drag out a super basic geometry formula is completely redundant. There is Math inside chess …

Ever seen a chess book refer to the angles of a triangle adding up to 180 degrees?

wollyhood

Mar 21, 2019

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#188

I'll see if I can elucidate your point more effectively here as you seem to be struggling.

I will have to paraphrase your posts thus far.

Maths is NOT involved in chess, as I can drag up Year 1-5 maths problems that have nothing to do with chess.

Therefore, there is almost no maths in chess.

Is that how your brain works spongey?

kindaspongey

Mar 21, 2019

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#189

wollyhood wrote:

I'll see if I can elucidate your point more effectively here as you seem to be struggling.

... Is that how your brain works spongey?

At this time, for the purpose of expressing my thinking, I have no desire to add anything to the words that I have already chosen.

"... I am trying to advocate consideration of what is different."

atharvaitagi

Oct 29, 2023

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#190

a chess board is 8x8 which is 64 tiles in total and the square root of 64 for is a rational number. Very confusing but it is math.

CraigIreland

Oct 29, 2023

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#191

Solving Chess requires Computer Science, a branch of mathematics, but playing Chess is too complicated to be Mathematics.

RopemakerStreet

Oct 29, 2023

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#192

Most of chess is memorisation, most people, myself including, do not have the time nor will power to spend a lifetime chained to the chessboard studying theory several moves deep, you think Magnus Carlsen is good, wait a good few more years, kids who've grown up with stronger and stronger engines will surpass him with ease.

Kyobir

Oct 29, 2023

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#193

Geometry?

chusmo

Oct 29, 2023

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#194

Calculating?

tygxc

Oct 30, 2023

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#195

Anderssen, Steinitz, Lasker, Euwe, Nunn were mathematicians.

Reprka

Oct 30, 2023

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#196

I'm bad at both math and chess.

AnonymousOpponent

Oct 30, 2023

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#197

Game theory studies the optimal strategy of games, and chess is a game.