The way I see it, the main downside is establishing yourself as someone an opponent won't want to play again.
In that sense, it's a personal risk management choice.
How important is that to you, the interpersonal aspect of the playing community here?
its a well know theoretical position that two pawns + K vs two Q + K is a win for the players with the pawns, so you were right
The way I see it, the main downside is establishing yourself as someone an opponent won't want to play again.
In that sense, it's a personal risk management choice.
How important is that to you, the interpersonal aspect of the playing community here?
I'm not trying to be a pain in the rear. But, I'm not playing GM's so I feel like I can still save something. And for what it's worth I tell them why I can't quit. Also, let me say I dont make them wait.
its a well know theoretical position that two pawns + K vs two Q + K is a win for the players with the pawns, so you were right
well it didn't work out that way for me!! lol
As you climb the ratings, positions become increasingly resignable. In lower rated games, pieces are lost on each side all the time so it is usually justified to attempt to claw the material back (and the winning player rarely makes use of their material edge). Similarly, stalemate tricks are more likely to be fallen into by a lower rated player.
But when you become stronger, there is no need to go for a stalemate. You know it's not going to happen. Similarly, you lose a bishop to a tactic with no compensation, and you just resign. They're not letting you get this piece back.
However, the one other factor to consider is time. I was playing an OTB rapidplay game last week (G/30 mins) and unfortunately I misplayed the drawn ending and was down a rook. It was K+R vs. K! However, my opponent had around 20 seconds left on his clock. He was rated roughly 1750 FIDE (converted) but I felt justified in playing on in this position.
(As it was, he ended up with 1 second left on his clock with one move to mate on the board. After I played my move, I didn't hit the clock and just let him play the mate as I had no wish to dispute his checkmate claims over some clock dispute; he clearly deserved the win, after all!)
The way I see it, the main downside is establishing yourself as someone an opponent won't want to play again.
In that sense, it's a personal risk management choice.
How important is that to you, the interpersonal aspect of the playing community here?
I'm not trying to be a pain in the rear. But, I'm not playing GM's so I feel like I can still save something. And for what it's worth I tell them why I can't quit. Also, let me say I dont make them wait.
Not sure that I agree with your reasoning here - it doesn't take a GM to win with 2 Q's versus 2 pawns! :-)
Anyway, I agree with goldendog about the community aspects of the decision. The way I learned it, to resign in a lost position is part of proper chess "manners" - but not everyone learned it that way. I'm okay if someone wants to play out the game as long as they don't slow down to drag out the inevitable ending. The fact that you communicate your thoughts on not resigning and you don't drag things out is a definite credit to you I think. I would appreciate that from an opponent.
Thank you all for your time and input. From now on if I'm dead I'll just crawl into my grave like man. 
Half right. As I remember you started running your mouth. And after I accepted your friend request I thought about leaving lost positions alone and looking at what I could work with. Btw it's bad manners to re-write history....... STORMBRINGER
As you climb the ratings, positions become increasingly resignable. In lower rated games, pieces are lost on each side all the time so it is usually justified to attempt to claw the material back (and the winning player rarely makes use of their material edge). Similarly, stalemate tricks are more likely to be fallen into by a lower rated player.
But when you become stronger, there is no need to go for a stalemate. You know it's not going to happen. Similarly, you lose a bishop to a tactic with no compensation, and you just resign. They're not letting you get this piece back.
However, the one other factor to consider is time. I was playing an OTB rapidplay game last week (G/30 mins) and unfortunately I misplayed the drawn ending and was down a rook. It was K+R vs. K! However, my opponent had around 20 seconds left on his clock. He was rated roughly 1750 FIDE (converted) but I felt justified in playing on in this position.
(As it was, he ended up with 1 second left on his clock with one move to mate on the board. After I played my move, I didn't hit the clock and just let him play the mate as I had no wish to dispute his checkmate claims over some clock dispute; he clearly deserved the win, after all!)
TY I'm about 1400 on a good day.
It is time to quit whenever there are no tactics or counterplay that makes sense in a position. Nothing you can do except boring yourself by moving pieces around with no excitement going on. So it is not just about respect for your opponent it is as much respect for yourself. Why being bored when you can start a new game instead and be much more excited?
Some K+Q vs. K+P positions are drawn, because the defender has real stalemate defenses. Here's a game that I just finished a couple days ago:
If your opponent has two or even three Queens he's the one who should end it and checkmate you away the quickest way he possibly can on the board your under no obligation to resign a game if you don't want to.
He's the one who should be ashamed if he let's you get away with stalemate with that much power on the board.
You never have to resign no matter what anyone says. Most people resign when they don't want to play the game anymore. Personally I like being allowed to deliver checkmate.
One of the great players[ It may have been Capablanca ] once said " I never won a game by resigning".
You sound like you have hostility issues. As long as he moves in a timely manner, why get so upset?
I have a hard time quitting a match, even if it's a lost position. I really need some advice on this. I've played out games where all I had was two pawns and my opponent two queens. But, I made him chase me all over the board hoping for a stalemate. I don't mean to be a "sorry" player. But, the way I see it getting a stalemate is like pulling a plane out of a nose dive!! Thank you all for your advice in advance.