Which is stronger, Two Knights and Two Bishops or 2 Rooks?

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ponz111 wrote:

This type of question comes up over and over and over again and the correct answer is always the same!!  It depends on  the position.

That's just not true or helpful though, is it?

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Sm7770 escribió:

We all know that 2 Rooks are worth 10 points and that two bishops and two knights are 12 points. But which one do you think is more powerful? Comment below which one and why.

Almost without doubt the two knights and two bishops. It's akin to asking if the rook is better than a minor piece; you can always come up with examples where the rook is worse than a knight but there is a GOOD reason why the rook is worth more points.

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With pawns on the Ns and Bs should win.

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Sm7770 wrote:

We all know that 2 Rooks are worth 10 points and that two bishops and two knights are 12 points. But which one do you think is more powerful? Comment below which one and why.

Well, obviously the knights and bishops, more points and pieces.

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2 Knights & 2 Bishops with correct play but it will not be easy with passed pawns.

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I love how still nobody is mentioning queens, even the people smart enough to talk about pawns. Are they magically just always off the board for this comparison for some reason, too?

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Also, the OP never said 2 rook vs 2 knights and 2 bishops. He could be talking about playing against a queen, which would you rather have?

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If it is those pieces alone with no pawns it should be a draw

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call me crazy but I'd rather have the rook pair. But only because I'm horrible at coordinating my knights in an endgame and I think the bishop pair is overrated. But of course it depends on the pawns too

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Sm7770 wrote:

We all know that 2 Rooks are worth 10 points and that two bishops and two knights are 12 points. But which one do you think is more powerful? Comment below which one and why.

Depends if there are pawns. If there are pawns, then the bishops and knights can dominate. If there are no pawns, it's drawn since the player with the rooks just needs to trade each rook for a bishop, and it will be 2 knights vs. king, which is drawn.

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ponz111 wrote:

This type of question comes up over and over and over again and the correct answer is always the same!!  It depends on  the position.

no, it does not depend on the position. I'm tired of this overused answer that is so vague and just makes no sense.  If someone asks you; "which is better, a bishop or a pawn?". Would you then say "it depends on the position", because I can easily come up with several positions where a single bishop can't stop a pawn promotion. Or I can even go out of my way to assume that the board is only KB vs KP and then call it a draw lol.

 

like @Game_of_Pawns said, 4 pieces are way better than 2 rooks in almost all scenarios and generally speaking. 

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#31

"4 pieces are way better than 2 rooks in almost all scenarios and generally speaking"

Disagree. RR = BBNN. After RxB remains R vs. BNN and this usually is a theoretical draw. A second RxB at any time is enough to draw to KNN vs. K.

 

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tygxc wrote:

#31

"4 pieces are way better than 2 rooks in almost all scenarios and generally speaking"

Disagree. RR = BBNN. After RxB remains R vs. BNN and this usually is a theoretical draw. A second RxB at any time is enough to draw to KNN vs. K.

 

why are you assuming it's KRR v KBBNN?? You know how stupid that is?

That's like a 500 rated kid asking you "which is better, a pawn or a bishop" and you tell the poor kid "they're the same, because KP v KB is a draw, just trade bishop for pawn"

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well it depends on who has more coordinated pieces