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Why do some people spend so much time on their fourth move?
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You see, the 4th move is a critical point in the game. The fourth move can either lose the game or not lose the game. You need to think carefully on the fourth move. If you make a fatal mistake, the game is lost. If you don’t, you might win.
TheSampson wrote:
You see, the 4th move is a critical point in the game. The fourth move can either lose the game or not lose the game. You need to think carefully on the fourth move. If you make a fatal mistake, the game is lost. If you don’t, you might win.
What are you talking about? Every move can help determine if you win or lose a game. If you’re playing against someone playing a brain dead game with theory you’d expect them to move. Taking 1 minute for the 4th move is so stupid to me
ren97ren wrote:
TheSampson wrote:
You see, the 4th move is a critical point in the game. The fourth move can either lose the game or not lose the game. You need to think carefully on the fourth move. If you make a fatal mistake, the game is lost. If you don’t, you might win.
What are you talking about? Every move can help determine if you win or lose a game. If you’re playing against someone playing a brain dead game with theory you’d expect them to move. Taking 1 minute for the 4th move is so stupid to me
But you don’t understand. Every other move is a minor choice. Even the winning move won’t matter if you fail the fourth move. For example:
You see, white failed the fourth move and lost all of his winning chances. Black, with his incredible intellect, succeeded in the fourth move, and secured a win.
Jun 3, 2023
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#6
ren97ren wrote:
TheSampson wrote:
You see, the 4th move is a critical point in the game. The fourth move can either lose the game or not lose the game. You need to think carefully on the fourth move. If you make a fatal mistake, the game is lost. If you don’t, you might win.
What are you talking about? Every move can help determine if you win or lose a game. If you’re playing against someone playing a brain dead game with theory you’d expect them to move. Taking 1 minute for the 4th move is so stupid to me
In some cases, if you are, for example, against an 800 when you are a 700, you may have even hard times on the fifth. Some people's brains work differently than others. Sure you may know an opening as White/Black, but other people may not. For example, in the Vienna, when White pushes its pawn to 4. e5, they either move their knight back or forward, and cause Black to think for a couple of seconds to a minute. It could change the whole plan for White, as they might expect them to go back. Hence, it is not too stupid in a TEN minute game 
CamillaTuffin0727 wrote:
ren97ren wrote:
TheSampson wrote:
You see, the 4th move is a critical point in the game. The fourth move can either lose the game or not lose the game. You need to think carefully on the fourth move. If you make a fatal mistake, the game is lost. If you don’t, you might win.
What are you talking about? Every move can help determine if you win or lose a game. If you’re playing against someone playing a brain dead game with theory you’d expect them to move. Taking 1 minute for the 4th move is so stupid to me
In some cases, if you are, for example, against an 800 when you are a 700, you may have even hard times on the fifth. Some people's brains work differently than others. Sure you may know an opening as White/Black, but other people may not. For example, in the Vienna, when White pushes its pawn to 4. e5, they either move their knight back or forward, and cause Black to think for a couple of seconds to a minute. It could change the whole plan for White, as they might expect them to go back. Hence, it is not too stupid in a TEN minute game
The thing is, his opponents take a minute to think when the right move is stupidly obvious
“oH, Uh, sHoUld I dEvElOp My kNIgHt, HaNg mY oTHeR KnIgHt, dEvElOp mY BiShOp tO a PaSsiVe, SeNseLesS sQuARe, oR deVeLoP It tO tHis SeNseLEsS sQuAre?”
Bruh me and my opponent were 1800 or up
Jun 4, 2023
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#9
ren97ren wrote:
People are literally playing 10 minutes games and waiting on the 4th move for like 1 minute? Why are some people doing this?
Like Anand?
Jun 4, 2023
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#10
In 15|10 when playing black, I start thinking of what to play as early as move 1. Spending 1 minutes out of 10 minutes to calculate on move 4 is not something bad. If your opponent doesn't manage their time well, it will be to your advantage. So no need to bother about your opponent spending time to figure out what to play in the opening instead of blitzing out what seems like natural moves to you.
Jun 4, 2023
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#11
ren97ren wrote:
One opponent I played today in literally a 10 minute game used 48 seconds on the 4th move. Why would a person do something like this?
This doesn't sound like a big deal.
Unless, my interpretation of your question is wrong. If you do have multiple examples of different 1800 rated players that all use up to a minute on the 4th move, that would be big deal. I have no idea what the implication would be and how that impacts the way we look at chess. But it would be interesting and you're likely the first to discover the pattern.
Jun 4, 2023
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#12
I don’t really understand what you are saying, because if one of your opponents is just thinking, then why not wait! You will get a time advantage so why does it sound like you are annoyed? If they are stalling then that is something to get annoyed about. 🙂
Jun 4, 2023
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#14
It is the same reason people play 10 minute game and blast out moves in seconds, they are like 1 and a half minutes time spent by move 20. Some people just blast the same opening every game so they know the moves and spend no time even thinking, some people dont know all the opening and hence take their time to see what is up
People are literally playing 10 minutes games and waiting on the 4th move for like 1 minute? Why are some people doing this?