Why are Chess Clubs so arrogant?

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Say wha...? You call that an outpost? Take that! Bam! Now what?! Where's that bishop goin' now, huh? Bam, pawn to d5. Yeah, now what? Do you mean kind of like that?

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One time I was being a dick to this really arrogant guy (who normally beat me, but that night I was able to get a few games off him).

He made a bad move he probably knew was bad too and I said:


"oh, just as I calculated... a draw...

no, I'm just kidding, one of us is definitely going to lose this" Laughing


And ok, this guy usually did stuff like sigh when you took too long to move, look at his watch, all this stuff.  So that night I was making it a point to look away from the board after each of my moves.  Like, really obvious, I'd move, then learn across the table on my elbow and stare at the wall to my left lol.  I think the only reason I beat him is it got to him psychologically... and I usually don't do this (more like never actually) but like I said this guy...

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Oh, but by the way, everyone else is really nice.

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Play at a pub or coffee shop that should be fun.

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Another time, I was playing this kid, and after a move I was taking a while to think... so he said "I'm threatening mate so..." and I didn't believe him so I ignored him and made a move... and was immediately checkmated.  He jumped up and did a victory dance shouting, "whoo hooo, Mohammad Ali, one punch knock out, who's the champ"

It was all in good fun though, I was laughing.

Next game I got him in an opening trap where he loses a piece or it's mate, and so I got to give it back, "I'm threatening mate so..." and he just laughed.

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And dont forget to fistpump when you sac a piece to destroy your opps castle.

This is mandatory. you can also use the other hand to tap your bicep on the fistpump arm, but this is not required.

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Perhaps it would help if you befriended the club leaders? They want "new life" infused into their clubs and often go out of their way to engage with you and introduce you to fellow members.

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JohnnyKGB wrote:

Play poker ,  chess is f0r nerds and boring people.

so why are u here?

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Thanks for the replies everyone. I do think it was simply a bit eliteist and I'm sure there are eally friendly clubs out there but i've yet to find one! Thanks again for your insight. Very interesting points of view!

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Sorry you had a bad experience at that club....Im sure you can find another club with nice people...

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@luvbug, I agree with most on here that is not the norm.  My visit to a club was great.  A large and very colorful character who ran the club enjoyed trash talk and was eager to play a new face.  After my first game which I lost the person i played pointed out a key weakness in my particular system and honestly I learned in that moment just how important not making wasteful developing moves was.  Besides some of the younger players everyone was more then accomodating and there was a nice sense of who everyone was.  From your statement I was reminded of the first tournament I ever went to even before the club.  It was 10 people and in the half hour or so waiting for everyone to arrive No One spoke.  I am very outgoing and was terribly excited to be there so I picked up rule book and just started asking questions.  Soon, most were chatting and the room lightened up a bit.  The one person who stayed quite happened to be a 2200 rated player and after he collected his loot was off.  It sounds like you need to find a better group sorry to hear your first experience was less then you had expected.  maybe try asking some more formal questions next time about the gathering just to get a feel.  GL!

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I go to the chess club to play chess. Sometimes we talk but I'd rather play chess. Chess is the way I communicate. When I'm not at the club I play online.  

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@LUVRUG (OP) My first time was sort of the same way back in March, i went and everybody beat me but in return they gave me advice and this one guy (older guy) kept beating me but he would tell me what i did wrong and made me write down my mess ups to take up and look after and well, nvm i guess my experience was different but we do have one thing we DID have in common, you dont have RESPECT THERE!, listen to me buddy, and listen HARD! do not stop going there, KEEP GOING THERE AND KEEP PLAYING EVERYONE UNTIL YOU BEAT EVERYONE, MAKE THEM RESPECT YOU!!! EVEN IF THEY DONT LIKE IT!! THATS WHAT I DID, IT TOOK ME 6 MONTHS OF TRAINING BEFORE I SHOWED UP AGAIN AND I BEAT EVERYONE NOW I HAVE RESPECT WHEN I WALK IN AND IT FEELS DAMN GOOD! DO NOT COWARD AWAY, I will tell you like Bobby Fischer said, "I don't believe in pychology, i believe in good moves" use your talent, build your strength and make the MFers respect you!!! period. that is your number one goal right now... MAKE THEM RESPECT YOU!!!

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You can either keep running from things because they seem scary or you can go head first and learn from the experience, if there plenty of chess players there to play with who gives a crap if they speak to you and conversate with you, some people at my chess club at first didnt speak to me but after they played me and lost and really seen how deep i was thats when they wanna be your friends and thats when they will open up because they respect you and consider you one of them, thats what its about, so dont worry about all the other stuff, it will come in time, only thing that should be on your mind is just geting someone to play with there and go from there and learn from your mistakes and be friendly even when they arent friendly to you, "short story, i played in raleigh against this chinese kid, and im not ashamed to say he beat me but before we played i over heard him say he was going to win because i (me) was black" and yea that messed my head up but i didnt run i went on and played him anyway, after that i came back after i figured out what i did wrong and beat him and oh boy you should have seen the look on his face lol, but my point is, bro, your going to deal with things like that, maybe not like mine being the fact that there arent too many african americans playing chess but your going to deal with assholes and friendly people, same as any sport you play and i used to play basketball, trust me, its Assholes everywhere you go. Just make sure you make them respect you bro :-)

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Luvrug wrote:

Thanks for the replies everyone. I do think it was simply a bit eliteist and I'm sure there are eally friendly clubs out there but i've yet to find one! Thanks again for your insight. Very interesting points of view!

Luvrug... I'm new to Craigslist but decided to give it a try when looking for a local chess club. Was only my first post on that site and suddenly a very pleasant couple contacted me to inform me of their club that meets every Monday. The leader has a 2300 rating and they asked me to meet them for a simul game... Was greatly impressed and was a good way of finding a friendly (but competitive) group. I don't know how Craigslist works overseas, but if you have it, use it! :)

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trevinlmurray wrote:

@LUVRUG (OP) My first time was sort of the same way back in March, i went and everybody beat me but in return they gave me advice and this one guy (older guy) kept beating me but he would tell me what i did wrong and made me write down my mess ups to take up and look after and well, nvm i guess my experience was different but we do have one thing we DID have in common, you dont have RESPECT THERE!, listen to me buddy, and listen HARD! do not stop going there, KEEP GOING THERE AND KEEP PLAYING EVERYONE UNTIL YOU BEAT EVERYONE, MAKE THEM RESPECT YOU!!! EVEN IF THEY DONT LIKE IT!! THATS WHAT I DID, IT TOOK ME 6 MONTHS OF TRAINING BEFORE I SHOWED UP AGAIN AND I BEAT EVERYONE NOW I HAVE RESPECT WHEN I WALK IN AND IT FEELS DAMN GOOD! DO NOT COWARD AWAY, I will tell you like Bobby Fischer said, "I don't believe in pychology, i believe in good moves" use your talent, build your strength and make the MFers respect you!!! period. that is your number one goal right now... MAKE THEM RESPECT YOU!!!

Love it!!! Thanks for the advice, I think I should start getting better then return and destroy them all....

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Luvrug wrote:
trevinlmurray wrote:

@LUVRUG (OP) My first time was sort of the same way back in March, i went and everybody beat me but in return they gave me advice and this one guy (older guy) kept beating me but he would tell me what i did wrong and made me write down my mess ups to take up and look after and well, nvm i guess my experience was different but we do have one thing we DID have in common, you dont have RESPECT THERE!, listen to me buddy, and listen HARD! do not stop going there, KEEP GOING THERE AND KEEP PLAYING EVERYONE UNTIL YOU BEAT EVERYONE, MAKE THEM RESPECT YOU!!! EVEN IF THEY DONT LIKE IT!! THATS WHAT I DID, IT TOOK ME 6 MONTHS OF TRAINING BEFORE I SHOWED UP AGAIN AND I BEAT EVERYONE NOW I HAVE RESPECT WHEN I WALK IN AND IT FEELS DAMN GOOD! DO NOT COWARD AWAY, I will tell you like Bobby Fischer said, "I don't believe in pychology, i believe in good moves" use your talent, build your strength and make the MFers respect you!!! period. that is your number one goal right now... MAKE THEM RESPECT YOU!!!

Love it!!! Thanks for the advice, I think I should start getting better then return and destroy them all....

 

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trevinlmurray wrote:

KEEP GOING THERE AND KEEP PLAYING EVERYONE UNTIL YOU BEAT EVERYONE, MAKE THEM RESPECT YOU!!! EVEN IF THEY DONT LIKE IT!! THATS WHAT I DID, IT TOOK ME 6 MONTHS OF TRAINING BEFORE I SHOWED UP AGAIN AND I BEAT EVERYONE NOW I HAVE RESPECT WHEN I WALK IN AND IT FEELS DAMN GOOD! DO NOT COWARD AWAY, I will tell you like Bobby Fischer said, "I don't believe in pychology, i believe in good moves" use your talent, build your strength and make the MFers respect you!!! period. that is your number one goal right now... MAKE THEM RESPECT YOU!!!

But your rating here is around 1000... 

Are all the players on your club beginners?

Maybe you should try going to a better club, with at least an IM giving lessons and high rated members.

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Luvrug wrote:
 

Turns out the club I went to which will remain nameless, was full of silent, self absorbed players who didnt want to know new faces  But during a "social gathering" I'd have thought people would like to be social?

 

Perhaps informal chess meet up groups like this is what your looking for and would be a better for you than becoming a member of a chess club?

http://www.meetup.com/chess-nyc/