YouEvenLiftBro wrote:
If women want to organise their own tournaments and titles, how the heck does that affect you adversely?
Women don't organize this, lol. Those FIDE titles were made in the 70s, almost certainly by men.
Why are there separate titles for women?
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Mar 8, 2022
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glow_squid wrote:
because women suck at chess
That's very offensive to me, Please don't make such hateful comments.
Glow squid is entitled to his opinion
Mar 8, 2022
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Why are there separate competitions and separate titles for minor league sports?
Isn't it to develop new talent?
The number of FIDE rated women is only about 1/10th of the number of FIDE-rated men. With a pool of players that is so much smaller, of course the outliers (both best and worst) will be less extreme.
Mar 8, 2022
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jollywingo wrote:
Glow squid is entitled to his opinion
Even if it is moronic.
Mar 8, 2022
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#27
Frantek4 wrote:
I was looking for this, this post is a sexist flytrap, these people who are MEDIOCRE AT BEST are really insulting women grandmasters and saying they're not good as men.
Why were you looking for this?
Mar 8, 2022
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Snowgrave_Bonnie wrote:
glow_squid wrote:
because women suck at chess
That's very offensive to me, Please don't make such hateful comments.
Then he achieved his goal.
Guys. Women vs Men in physics is usually men win, but women vs men in brain strength is usually equal. Im guessing the olympic wanted to stick with the Women olympics with women only or something.
i think its cause FIDE wanted to motivate or inspire more female players into the game
jollywingo wrote:
Glow squid is entitled to his opinion
but that opinion is sexist and stupid af
jollywingo wrote:
Women can compete against only women. Men cannot compete against only other men.
thats not true? ive seen women beat tons of men at chess also that doesnt make sense because if women can only compete with other women then what do men compete against if not other men?
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Bea_Garrido wrote:
I'm guessing they were created because the feminine of 'master' is 'mistress', and that word has negative connotations associated to it. In my mind, master is a pretty neutral word, and as a woman, I'd prefer the title Grandmaster - Woman Grandmaster sounds silly, unnatural and unnecessary. But that's me!
women can still earn titles like grandmaster, fidemaster, international master and it has technically happened times before
women titles have different requirements so its just a stepping stone on the ladder of titles in some sense
its also because theres less women players so fide tried to make it more inviting by doing so because less players obviously means less chance of having as good players or top players
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potatotomato123456 wrote:
Guys. Women vs Men in physics is usually men win, but women vs men in brain strength is usually equal. Im guessing the olympic wanted to stick with the Women olympics with women only or something.
highest women chess rating is around 2650 and highest men is around 2800
theres still a big difference as of right now but its catching up slowly i guess
but its not that equal
Mar 8, 2022
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glow_squid wrote:
most women have actual lives like talking to friends or whatever unlike men like me
imagine having a life
having a life isnt the issue here
people at the top level women or men carreers are chess so they do have a life
you on the other hand dont have a life but dont have rating either so therefore your just bad and you cant insult people for playing chess
technical_knockout wrote:
what like that wasn't deserved?
no need to be harsh, nothing to gain except negative emotions and mental health effects
glow_squid wrote:
I like how society has forgotten the meaning of something being ironically funny
so sexism is ironically funny now
Mar 9, 2022
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In past centuries "the weaker sex" was kept out of many facets of life. There were no female doctors, lawyers, architects, etc 200 years ago--the governing organizations that controlled these activities didn't allow women to participate. When organized chess began the same strictures applied.
By the end of the 19th century there were separate women's events in some places. When FIDE was new they organized the first women's world championship (1927). After World War II FIDE took over the "men's" world championship and started awarding international titles--IM and GM. AS women still competed separately the WIM title was created in 1950.
As time passed more women took up chess and some played more often in open tournaments and a few became strong enough to earn the open IM title so FIDE created the WGM title (1976) to recognize the very strongest female players. Soon (1978) longtime Women's World Champion Nona Gaprindashvili became the first woman to earn the open GM title.
Since then more women have played in top open events and earned open titles, so by now most women just play in mixed tournaments. The old women-only competitions are kept going for two reasons: 1) to recognize top women players and encourage more women to play chess; 2) in many places around the world (Iran, Saudi Arabia and many more) women and men are forbidden by law from mixing in public, leaving separate women's tournaments as the only place females can play.
It would seem that the logical course would be to gradually raise the minimum requirements for WIM and WGM titles to match the open titles, but unfortunately the legal difficulties women face in many societies means that this will likely take quite a few years so the separate titles will continue to exist for the foreseeable future.
I'm guessing they were created because the feminine of 'master' is 'mistress', and that word has negative connotations associated to it. In my mind, master is a pretty neutral word, and as a woman, I'd prefer the title Grandmaster - Woman Grandmaster sounds silly, unnatural and unnecessary. But that's me!