Why did Bobby Fischer Quit Chess
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#251, what wasn’t true among my words? Wasn’t the cold war era? Didn’t US compete with Soviet Union? Didn’t US spend a lot in advertising chess? Didn’t Fischer benefit from being in all media for a period of time? Didn’t he later started to oppose US? Didn’t he go to Yugoslavia to play a rematch with spassky? Wasn’t Yugoslavia violating humanitarian right at that time? Either educate me and show me any wrong point in my words or accept that you are a patzer troll.
What money did the US spend on chess? Chess players back then in the US were living in shoeboxes in the middle of the road.
The most promising US player before Fischer, Reschevsky, had to support himself by being an accountant.
Fischer had to look for private benefactors.
The most promising US player before Fischer, Reschevsky, had to support himself by being an accountant.
Fischer had to look for private benefactors.
Oct 9, 2021
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#243
goldenbeer wrote:
Didn’t US spend a lot in advertising chess?
The US didn't spend a dime.
They may have promoted chess in the news but nobody involved in the match got money. I don't think 🤔
Oct 9, 2021
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#245
Contenchess wrote:
They may have promoted chess in the news but nobody involved in the match got money. I don't think 🤔
In the Spassky - Fischer match?
Famously, Fischer threatened to not play, and some rich guy basically doubled the prize.
So not only was there a prize fund, it was basically twice a large as normal.
Interesting 🤔
But...we were talking about government funding I think.
Oct 9, 2021
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#248
llama47 wrote:
Contenchess wrote:
They may have promoted chess in the news but nobody involved in the match got money. I don't think 🤔
In the Spassky - Fischer match?
Famously, Fischer threatened to not play, and some rich guy basically doubled the prize.
So not only was there a prize fund, it was basically twice a large as normal.
Yes, but not a penny of that money came from the US.
Slater was British.
Oct 9, 2021
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#249
Fischer did not receive any aid from the USA because A.) the USA did not have any interest in developing chess talent and B.) his mother was on a FBI watchlist.
Oct 9, 2021
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#250
So yeah... Fischer quit before the match (in the 60s) he almost quit during the match, and he definitely quit after the match.
So it had nothing to do with Spassky or Karpov or whatever. He was not healthy/happy person.
Poor Fischer….
Oct 9, 2021
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#252
Ultimately I think Fischer decided to quit because he did not want to go into another championship match with a team full of average GMs vs Karpov who had former world champions and top trainers helping him. Therefore he pulled all kinds of shenanigans to get out of the match.
😆 I like him already
Oct 9, 2021
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#254
beginner7196 wrote:
Ultimately I think Fischer decided to quit because he did not want to go into another championship match with a team full of average GMs vs Karpov who had former world champions and top trainers helping him. Therefore he pulled all kinds of shenanigans to get out of the match.
He pulled "shenanigans" his whole career. Karpov was young and inexperienced. Even Karpov admitted Fischer probably would have won if he'd played.
... not that it's worth correcting a troll, but I'm bored apparently.
Touché
Oct 9, 2021
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#256
December_TwentyNine wrote:
You know this is off topic but I just realized something.
Can someone tell me what the difference is between @llama47 and @llama?
Both of these individuals seem to be good posters and make me happy....they look very, very close too
Look at their rating - kick your butt!!
Read my profile maybe?
llama47 wrote:
beginner7196 wrote:
Ultimately I think Fischer decided to quit because he did not want to go into another championship match with a team full of average GMs vs Karpov who had former world champions and top trainers helping him. Therefore he pulled all kinds of shenanigans to get out of the match.
He pulled "shenanigans" his whole career. Karpov was young and inexperienced. Even Karpov admitted Fischer probably would have won if he'd played.
... not that it's worth correcting a troll, but I'm bored apparently.
Complete BS. Karpov is saying that just to be humble. Truth is the Soviets were training him specifically to win the match in '75, because they could not afford for Karpov to lose like Spassky had done before him. 2 Soviet champions losing to an American star was unthinkable in their minds.
Oct 9, 2021
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#258
brianchesscake wrote:
llama47 wrote:
beginner7196 wrote:
Ultimately I think Fischer decided to quit because he did not want to go into another championship match with a team full of average GMs vs Karpov who had former world champions and top trainers helping him. Therefore he pulled all kinds of shenanigans to get out of the match.
He pulled "shenanigans" his whole career. Karpov was young and inexperienced. Even Karpov admitted Fischer probably would have won if he'd played.
... not that it's worth correcting a troll, but I'm bored apparently.
Complete BS. Karpov is saying that just to be humble. Truth is the Soviets were training him specifically to win the match in '75, because they could not afford for Karpov to lose like Spassky had done before him. 2 Soviet champions losing to an American star was unthinkable in their minds.
1) The Soviets were training Spassky to specifically win the match in 1972, how'd that work out again? Fischer even spotted him 2 wins and still demolished Spassky.
2) If Fischer didn't have a chance against Karpov, then why were they so worried?
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In the end, it doesn't matter how good Karpov was, because as I said, Fischer had a history of erratic behavior and of quitting chess. To say he quit because of Karpov is some simplistic post hoc fallacy.
Oct 9, 2021
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#259
"1) The Soviets were training Spassky to specifically win the match in 1972, how'd that work out again? Fischer even spotted him 2 wins and still demolished Spassky."
Karpov on Spassky: I consider myself to be an idler, too, but the dimensions of Spassky’s laziness were astounding.’
page 89 Karpov on Karpov, ‘Memoirs of a Chess World Champion’, translation from the Russian by Todd Bludeau.
