You are probably talking to someone. It's no different than a professor talking to their class and saying in a lecture, "If we were to..."
Why do chess players refer to themselves as "We"? lol
You are probably talking to someone. It's no different than a professor talking to their class and saying in a lecture, "If we were to..."
Yeah, but why?... I'm not a native english speaker so it sounds weird to me...
Like... OK Dubov is streaming... are his audience/students participating in the game? no... It's different than a lesson, that I would get...
When you broadcast there is text chat. He is probably looking at Chess24 chat and not Youtube chat though. Dubov in this case doesn't seem to be looking at chat. So, I would say he is just using the sentence pattern that corresponds to how he talks when he does commentary with other people.
oooooooh.... Fascinating... I knew there was something I was totally missing about this
Oh! Oh! Let's edit the wikipedia and put Dubov as a reference
... "In chess..........." someone write it I can't write
btw, in say, a chessable course, or any type of course for that matter, it's understandable....
"we are aiming at doing this and this in this position"... But that makes complete sense because we is "us, who play this line"...
I guess if Jesus can die for our sins before we are born, then someone can say we are in someone else's mind while they consider chess moves.
There's a long tradition of poking fun at the use of "we" in this way, e.g. the line attributed to Mark Twain: "Only kings, presidents, editors, and people with tapeworms have the right to use the editorial ‘we’." Other amusing examples are found in this article: https://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/03/magazine/03FOB-onlanguage-t.html
in some circumstances, people who don't speak english may think "you" sounds like an accusation or a judgment, like someone pointing toward you, instead of explaining about something.
i have seen someone on an international online forum angry because someone else said "you don't or you do" and he felt accused/judged and many other misunderstandings in communication because some people are not used to saying "you" (because in their mother tongue/national language, they usually say "we" instead of "you").
"How do you cheat in an online game?"
"What??? Why are you accusing me??"
"How do you learn a foreign language?"
"You are the one who wanna learn. I don't. How can you ask me that question?"
But on cooking shows, they like to use "you" instead of "we" ("You can use___ instead if you don't have ___").
It's the difference between a situation where anyone can do something given the same premise and a situation where the premise is likely to be different.
Well.... When I hear someone use it when streaming alone, I do feel like it has something to do with "We" as in, "Me and my chess alter ego"... Like Gollum had a thing like that right? "We wants it... We needs it.... my precious"... Anyways.... My bottom line is - without knowing the concept of Nosism, it raised some question on mental health, a bit... Imaginary friends and stuff... Because we all do indeed have some "alter ego", which we sometimes talk to while playing and considering moves... Like I sometimes find myself talking to myself while solving puzzles and I feel awkward about it lol....
So I was wondering, perhaps good players actually have that inner conversation more significantly, more 'clear'...? Anyways... I'm just joking I don't think your imaginary friends are imaginary they are totally real...
Lots of people...
[This is just winning for] "us"...
"[We] can go Nf5...."
etc...
Who is "We" and why are you calling yourself "us" my bros???
Is it just like "Me and my fellow White pawns and pieces", or is there a deeper philisophical layer?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oNoEfAoa0A&t=80s